[NOISE] I never knew that Dimitri Vulis was a net.legend

While the message blew by a little while ago (and I didn't save it),
someone had posted a URL with information about Dimitri's sordid/alleged
past on the Net.  At roughly the same time, I ran across (by accident) a
URL that lists Dimitri as a "net.legend" and offers yet another
perspective.  Apparently, Dimitri is far more well known that any of us
(at least me) gave him credit for.  The notion that the idiom "dandruff
covered" is indicative of anti-semitism is one passage that I found rather
amusing.

Check it out for yourself at
http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/home/legends/legends3.html

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"Mark O. Aldrich" <maldrich@grci.com> writes:
> (at least me) gave him credit for.  The notion that the idiom "dandruff
> covered" is indicative of anti-semitism is one passage that I found rather
> amusing.

Timmy May has tons of dandruff (and dried up semen) in his beard.
Is he Jewish???

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

"Mark O. Aldrich" <maldrich@grci.com> writes:

> While the message blew by a little while ago (and I didn't save it),
> someone had posted a URL with information about Dimitri's sordid/alleged
> past on the Net.

And the present!

>                   At roughly the same time, I ran across (by accident) a

I suspect (haven't tried it) that if you go to http://www.altavista.com and
search the Web for "vulis", you'll get a lot of hits...

> URL that lists Dimitri as a "net.legend" and offers yet another
> perspective.  Apparently, Dimitri is far more well known that any of us
> (at least me) gave him credit for.

It is a great honor to meet a net.legent in person.

---

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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                          SANDY SANDFORT
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C'punks,

On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> It is a great honor to meet a net.legent in person.

I hope Dimitri will stop hidding behind his computer and "honor" 
us with his presence at an SF Bay area Cypherpunks meeting.  I've 
got pledges for nearly $1200 to bring him out here to speak.  All
we need now is a serious response from Dimitri.  I guess when the
going gets tough, the "net legends" get yellow.  What are you 
afraid of Dimitri?


 S a n d y

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Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com> writes:

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>                           SANDY SANDFORT
>  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> 
> C'punks,
> 
> On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> 
> > It is a great honor to meet a net.legent in person.
> 
> I hope Dimitri will stop hidding behind his computer and "honor" 
> us with his presence at an SF Bay area Cypherpunks meeting.  I've 
> got pledges for nearly $1200 to bring him out here to speak.  All
> we need now is a serious response from Dimitri.  I guess when the
> going gets tough, the "net legends" get yellow.  What are you 
> afraid of Dimitri?

I said: YES, when I have the time.

---

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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                          SANDY SANDFORT
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

C'punks,

On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> I said: YES, when I have the time.

Great.  So let's pick a date sufficiently in the future that you
can make a firm commitment.  For starters, our three winter 
meetings are tentatively scheduled for December 14, January 11 
and February 8.  Any of those sound good to you?  Winter is a 
great time to escape from New York and come to sunny California.  
Hell, pay for your wife's (or boyfriend's) plane fare, and we'll 
pay for a double room at the hotel.

What do you say now?


 S a n d y

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Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com> writes:

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>                           SANDY SANDFORT
>  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>
> C'punks,
>
> On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
>
> > I said: YES, when I have the time.
>
> Great.  So let's pick a date sufficiently in the future that you
> can make a firm commitment.  For starters, our three winter
> meetings are tentatively scheduled for December 14, January 11
> and February 8.  Any of those sound good to you?

Don't know yet.

---

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com> writes:
> 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >                           SANDY SANDFORT
> >  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> >
> > C'punks,
> >
> > On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> >
> > > I said: YES, when I have the time.
> >
> > Great.  So let's pick a date sufficiently in the future that you
> > can make a firm commitment.  For starters, our three winter
> > meetings are tentatively scheduled for December 14, January 11
> > and February 8.  Any of those sound good to you?
> 
> Don't know yet.

"Translation: I'm too chicken to say yes, but don't want to look like a 
chicken by saying no, so I'll delay this as far as I can.  Meanwhile, 
I'll spam those who point this out with 48kb spam messages of pure 
bullshit and pretend that their ancestors are responsible for said 
actions in bullshit spam message."

Vulis, get some balls.  You lack them.

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On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com> writes:
> 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >                           SANDY SANDFORT
> >  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> > 
> > C'punks,
> > 
> > On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> > 
> > > It is a great honor to meet a net.legent in person.
> > 
> > I hope Dimitri will stop hidding behind his computer and "honor" 
> > us with his presence at an SF Bay area Cypherpunks meeting.  I've 
> > got pledges for nearly $1200 to bring him out here to speak.  All
> > we need now is a serious response from Dimitri.  I guess when the
> > going gets tough, the "net legends" get yellow.  What are you 
> > afraid of Dimitri?
> 
> I said: YES, when I have the time.

Translation: "Uh, I can't see you Friday, I have to give my parakeet a 
bubble bath and have beak sex with afterwards, yeah, uh, that's it."

2nd Translation "I'm a chicken in real life, and have no balls so I will 
postpone this until hell freezes over.  Meanwhile I'll create another 
diversion by posting a thousand more anti Tim May messages to take the 
heat off."


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On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Mark O. Aldrich wrote:
> While the message blew by a little while ago (and I didn't save it),
> someone had posted a URL with information about Dimitri's sordid/alleged
> past on the Net.  At roughly the same time, I ran across (by accident) a
> URL that lists Dimitri as a "net.legend" and offers yet another
> perspective.  Apparently, Dimitri is far more well known that any of us
> (at least me) gave him credit for.  The notion that the idiom "dandruff
> covered" is indicative of anti-semitism is one passage that I found rather
> amusing.
> 
> Check it out for yourself at
> http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/home/legends/legends3.html
> 

The above is very good, but there's not nearly as much on Vulis in it. 
For anyone else who may have missed it, here is the original link again:

http://www.math.harvard.edu/~verbit/scs/cranks/from-Shlomo.html#vulis

This one absolutely_boggles_my_mind.  But check them both out.

I avoid responding to Vulis' rants and raves, and his unusually
unimaginative schoolyard witticisms (the "Timmy May is a convicted child
molestor" stuff...I guess this is an example of Russian-style insults,
though I guess it's better than hammering one's shoe on a table).

However, Mark Aldrich's belated realization that Vulis is a certified
Kook-of-the-Month shows that not everyone may have understood my humor a
few months back. After several weeks of seeing Vulis' rants here, with his
strange insertions of the word "[spit]" after mentioning people's names,
and knowing full well his history as a ranter against "the Usenet Cabal,"
and with various odd, kooky comments about fellow Russian emigres, this is
why I composed my brief satire about Vulis (attached below, from
1996-07-17). I even labelled it as "satire," but, in true KOTM form, Vulis
declared that I was spreading slanderous lies in "the security community"
(I guess that's us?), and from thereon I was one of his main targets. Maybe
he thinks I'm another Sovok Tchurka emigre who changed his name to a
Western name so as to join the Illuminati Jew Usenet Cabal.

At 1:51 PM -0400 10/16/96, Mark O. Aldrich wrote:
>While the message blew by a little while ago (and I didn't save it),
>someone had posted a URL with information about Dimitri's sordid/alleged
>past on the Net.  At roughly the same time, I ran across (by accident) a
>URL that lists Dimitri as a "net.legend" and offers yet another
>perspective.  Apparently, Dimitri is far more well known that any of us
>(at least me) gave him credit for.  The notion that the idiom "dandruff
>covered" is indicative of anti-semitism is one passage that I found rather
>amusing.
>
>Check it out for yourself at
>http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/home/legends/legends3.html


Indeed, I knew full well about the "dandruff-covered" bit, and included it
in my satire (included below), probably from reading the KOTM FAQ on a
regular basis.

Anyway, now perhaps my satire will make more sense to some of you, who only
recently have learned just how strange and kooky Vulis (or whatever his
real name is) really is.

Here's my post from 1996-07-17:

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At 4:17 AM 7/18/96, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:

>Knowing KGB habits as pertaining to releasing information to the public,
>I would expect 50% of the CDROM to be pure bullshit, 40% -- lies, and
>maybe 10% truth that was already publicly available.
>
>It is like buying a CDROM about the history of the Net from Dr. Grubor.
>Maybe it would be interesting and amusing, but not worth $120.

NOW you tell me! I just shelled out $42 for "The History of the Net," by
Dr. John Grubor and Dr. Dmitri Vulis, 1996.

And here I thought it was the real history of the Net, especially the part
about how "the dandruff-covered Peter Vorobieff (spit) conspired with the
purebred Sovok Valery Fabrikant (spit) to spread the lies of the Jew
cripples dying of AIDS in Sovok-controlled clinics."

When Grubor and Vulis speak of the Usenet Cabal being a Sovok (spit) plot,
I thought this was the actual truth. I guess not. Maybe Spafford is
actually Rabbi Ruthenberg.

--Tim May

(hint: this a satire, based on the writings of Vulis, who speaks of people
as "lying purebred Sovok Tchurkas" (whatever _they_ are), and attaches the
charming word "(spit)" after nearly every person he references.)


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