NODE be57cc4erival Clipper products
scrappo.reverb@juno.com (Psuedo Nym)Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
What somebody needs to do is make a rival for
Clipper products. I propose that somebody with
enough money should have a Clipper-type chip
implementing Triple-DES or whatever developed
and marketed. They should do the same things,
except not be restricted by the government
(obviously this wouldn't be for export) by the means
of using weak crypto. These devices could probably
be marketed to the same audience that Clipper
products are aimed at, i.e. the general unsuspecting
populace. The only problem I could see would be
educating whoever buys into how the government
is pulling the wool over their eyes. I'm sure with
some funding from a major source, or some
donation of time/supplies from a manufacturing
company, it could be pulled off in grand fashion.
Who said we can't play the government's little game?
This along with some "Big Brother Inside" stickers
massively propagated, and it might fly. Any insights?
NODE cfc3e8f8Re: rival Clipper products
"Mark M." <markm@voicenet.com>Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
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On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Psuedo Nym wrote:
> What somebody needs to do is make a rival for
> Clipper products. I propose that somebody with
> enough money should have a Clipper-type chip
> implementing Triple-DES or whatever developed
> and marketed. They should do the same things,
> except not be restricted by the government
> (obviously this wouldn't be for export) by the means
> of using weak crypto. These devices could probably
> be marketed to the same audience that Clipper
> products are aimed at, i.e. the general unsuspecting
> populace. The only problem I could see would be
> educating whoever buys into how the government
> is pulling the wool over their eyes. I'm sure with
> some funding from a major source, or some
> donation of time/supplies from a manufacturing
> company, it could be pulled off in grand fashion.
> Who said we can't play the government's little game?
Clipper is dead. It makes no sense for anyone to pay >$70 for a hardware
encryption device when many tools are available on the 'net for free. AT&T
is manufacturing a clipper phone and there aren't any software products that I
know of that support Fortezza(?) cards. The much larger danger is the recent
"key recovery" initiative.
Mark
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