RE: "Countless third world deaths"--who cares?

Hard Media <zaid@hardnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Citibank is a major player in the third world debt crisis.
[Thomas Bass interviewing Citibank's Walter Wriston] 
> goes on to ask if "Walter" has made any "bad loans" ie to 
>dictators and other nasty sorts
>...jeez sorry but there's naivity and there's stupidity 

"Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net> wrote:
>Money was lent for economic development projects...some worked,
>some didn't.  Lenders of money don't "cause" deaths. People are
>responsible for their own actions, mostly. If their governments are
>corrupt, they need to replace those governments.
 
 In Re: Stopping the buying of candidates
"Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net> wrote
>Our political system is already in thrall to various special interests;
> [...] So be it. Let the highest bidder buy the government he can.
 
In RE: wired wankers
Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net> wrote: 
>These are very serious folks [Wriston et al.]. [...] 
> Don't get in their way unless you have an angel on your side.  
>An angel with a bag of cash, actually.
 
In Re: Timmy May is a jerk
"Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net> wrote:
>I guess I'm not much of a joiner. I never donated to the United Way
 
"Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net> wrote:
>If this sounds harsh, so be it. 
>Cypherpunks is not about redistributing wealth. 

Ahh, but you don't really believe this. Your vision of cypherpunks is all about
redistributing wealth. Just not in the sense you speak of.

There is naivete and then there is complicity.

James

"Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net> wrote:
>People are responsible for their own actions, mostly.

-. 
-."Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net> wrote:
-.
-.>I guess I'm not much of a joiner. I never donated to the United Way
-.>
 
        et tu, Brute?  I thought I was the only one who deliberately 
    stiffed the United Way, 

        The recent jailing of the national chairman of the United Way
    for pilfering multiple millions from the coffers, and squandering
    even more on lavish expense account jet-setting...  is more than 
    adequate justification to stiff the United Way.


-.>If this sounds harsh, so be it. 
-.>Cypherpunks is not about redistributing wealth. 
-.>

        no, cypherpunks is not about redistributing the wealth; at
    least, certainly not the vocal, active active members, and probably
    most of the rest as organized politics turns the stomach of anyone
    of knowledge, even skewed as it may be.

        redistributing the wealth is over in *.politics.*, &c.


In <9609248461.AA846180758@smtplink.alis.ca>, on 10/24/96 
   at 11:13 AM, jbugden@smtplink.alis.ca said:

-.Ahh, but you don't really believe this. Your vision of cypherpunks is
-.all about redistributing wealth. Just not in the sense you speak of.
-.
        Tim redistributing the wealth?!?  I'll be ROTFL for days over 
    the "insult."  

        Come on, James, get with the program.  Arguing that the elite
    rich are narrowing our margins as they steal from 99% of the
    population, and *maybe* they need to be curtailed, in not
    redistribution of wealth --in Canada, you call the real thing the
    National Health Services which supposedly provides cradle to the
    grave social services (which is bankrupting Canada).

-.There is naivete and then there is complicity.
-.

        I dunno, James... 

        so where do you draw the line?  Isn't most anyone who accepts
    money for employment these days guilty of complicity?  If not, why
    not? --they are, after all, selling their principles for the
    proverbial loaf of bread.

        I agree there can be stupidity --Americans, in particular, with
    30% functionally illiterate are more often stupid and uninformed
    than most members of the industrial world, However, even these
    "mentally challenged" (note the politically correct terminology)
    sloths (not very PC) have the one eyed monster telling them all the
    truth their masters wish them to hear.  we do not have political
    consultants and advertising agencies --we have PR teams.

        since the usurpers of the public trust don't allow me to enter: 
    "none of the above" I have never voted --I'm just waiting for the 
    time the politicals stage an election and noboy votes  --that is one
    of the few means of telling them we dont like what any of the 
    stooges will actually do when elected.

            ==attila  (6A27:0920 UT)