Re: Conspiring to commit voodoo

At 09:57 PM 11/12/96 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote:
>A friend of mine tells an interesting story.
>On driving to a convenience store early in wee hours, he sees a man
>splayed across the hood of a parked car, perhaps dead.  Being the good
>citizen he is he tracks down a police car and reports the incident.
>Instead of investigating the "body," the police decide to pull him over
>and write him $700 in tickets for various fictitous violations (all of
>which were later thrown out).  He, as would any reasonable
>citizen, protested, not so much for the tickets, but for the
>possibility that the prone man might need medical attention.
>(The incident was not called in on the radio).  He took the
>tickets and remarked something to the effect of, "I can't
>believe this is what one gets for trying to be a good citizen,
>trying to get involved."  Officer's response:  "Yep.  Next time 
>don't bother."  Eventually, some 30 mintues later the police drive to the
>location and revive what was a sleeping bum, take my friend to the station
>and make him wake his wife to bail him out to the tune of $250
>Total cost: $300 in legal fees to fight the "violations."


This story further confirms my lack of respect for Unicorn.  

While this story certainly teaches us to avoid contact with the police, it 
turns out that it ALSO shows that, ultimately, the current system is 
apparently set up to profit lawyers, police, judges, and other vermin.  
Those groups made out just fine as a consequence of the above incident:  The 
cop(s) harassed a "safe" victim, rather than actually going out and doing 
their job.  A lawyer got paid the money for, at best, merely ceasing the 
harassment the cops started.  The judge made it all look "legal," although 
not proper, and could feel good about himself for (aside from collecting his 
paycheck) turning the victim loose.  In short, the harassment wasn't UNDONE, 
it was merely STOPPED, for now.  The cops had, in fact, succeeded in causing 
the victim to lose $300.  Which, interestingly enough, was  probably the 
point of the whole exercise.

AP, on the other hand, would have fixed this problem, permanently.  The cop 
would be dead, eventually if not immediately.  The lawyer would be out of a 
job, as well as the judge.  In practice, AP would have deterred all such 
abuse, which means that it would have succeeded where Unicorn's implicit 
recommendation ("get a lawyer") would have failed.




 

Jim Bell
jimbell@pacifier.com

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, jim bell wrote:

> This story further confirms my lack of respect for Unicorn.  

Mr. Bell, if you keep complimenting me I'll begin to think perhaps I'm
being hit on.


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OK, that's an interesting, but not that isolated an incident....
        
        in the early 60s, I was stopped in Providence late at night by
    an officer (driving a red '57 bird which says 'give me a ticket') . 
    no big real other than the 4+ hours of hassle since the officer
    did not like my license and wanted "proof"  --at 4am. finally,
    they let me call ALA (auto. legal assoc.) and an attorney managed
    to spring me.  

        at that time, the bill was about $150.  ALA paid the bill.

        but, at renewal, the ALA would not renew as a I had "multiple"
    arrests.   seems like the ALA's local contract attorney had 
    "represented" me two more times in his area  --he was paid, I had
    the violations on record  --I just wasn't there for any of it!  Not
    bad for a little extra paperwork --for three phone calls he made
    almost $700!  not bad for 60-62.

        I guess the phantom struck again!

        OK, Jim, tell us WHY you don't respect unicorn for his story? 
    At that time Patriarcha was the NE don --judging from the news
    reports during the years I was at Harvard, AP must have been a
    common practice --except it was probably a closed betting pool.
    time for the three little monkeys on that one....

            -attila

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