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NODE 1fb67830IRS Subscribed to Cypherpunks
Got the following bounce.  The Cc: was to a real address.

DCF

>Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 05:24:21 -0500
>From: Administrator@ccmail.irs.gov (Administrator)
>Subject: Message not deliverable
>To: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
>Cc: XXXXXXXXX (Administrator)
>Content-Description: cc:Mail note part
>
>At 04:45 AM 11/4/96 -0800, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>>Libertarianism is not incompatible with strict regulations, as long as 
>>the rules violate nobody's rights.
>>
>>-Declan
>
>Obviously many voluntary religious organizations have quite strict rules
>for their members and are compatible with libertarianism.  Government
>monopoly regulations that cannot be opted out of are not compatible with
>libertarianism.  Instead of using the loaded term "regulations' it might be
>better to call things like the rules of the cypherpunk's list "club rules"
>or protocols.
>
>DCF
>
>
NODE de44fb8eRe: IRS Subscribed to Cypherpunks
Duncan Frissell wrote:
> Got the following bounce.  The Cc: was to a real address.
> >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 05:24:21 -0500
> >From: Administrator@ccmail.irs.gov (Administrator)
> >Subject: Message not deliverable
> >To: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
> >Cc: XXXXXXXXX (Administrator)
> >Content-Description: cc:Mail note part

> >At 04:45 AM 11/4/96 -0800, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> >>Libertarianism is not incompatible with strict regulations, as long as
> >>the rules violate nobody's rights.

> >Obviously many voluntary religious organizations have quite strict rules
> >for their members and are compatible with libertarianism.  Government
> >monopoly regulations that cannot be opted out of are not compatible with
> >libertarianism.  Instead of using the loaded term "regulations' it might be
> >better to call things like the rules of the cypherpunk's list "club rules"
> >or protocols.

Could be several things.  The IRS has (as of my visit in early 1996, anyway) adopted
the "hitman" technique of auditing, with specific per-hour $ goals, like traffic cops.

I'd guess at three things here.  1) Anyone hawking a product or engaging in barter, etc.
who is not paying the maximum tax, and  2) Studying certain aspects of net behavior or
usage for tax purposes, and  3) Trolling for fraud.
NODE ad140a86Re: IRS Subscribed to Cypherpunks
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Duncan Frissell wrote:

I've been getting a few of these too, to replies I've posted to 
cypherpunks@toad.com.  Interestingly enough, one came up from my filtered 
list. :(

> Got the following bounce.  The Cc: was to a real address.
> 
> DCF
> 
> >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 05:24:21 -0500
> >From: Administrator@ccmail.irs.gov (Administrator)
> >Subject: Message not deliverable
> >To: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
> >Cc: XXXXXXXXX (Administrator)
> >Content-Description: cc:Mail note part
> >
> >At 04:45 AM 11/4/96 -0800, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> >>Libertarianism is not incompatible with strict regulations, as long as 
> >>the rules violate nobody's rights.
> >>
> >>-Declan
> >
> >Obviously many voluntary religious organizations have quite strict rules
> >for their members and are compatible with libertarianism.  Government
> >monopoly regulations that cannot be opted out of are not compatible with
> >libertarianism.  Instead of using the loaded term "regulations' it might be
> >better to call things like the rules of the cypherpunk's list "club rules"
> >or protocols.
> >
> >DCF
> >
> >
> 

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