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Re: Does John Gilmore...

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NODE 3b31fea1Re: Does John Gilmore...
> The free market will ever be the only real path to free speech, because,
> in essence, it is free speech.
> Free speech does not, however, require that all speech be universally
> broadcast to each and every citizen on the planet free of charge.  That's
> "subsidized speech."

Given that the free market rule is "he who has the money makes the
rules", please explain how anything less than "subsidized speech" (as
you put it) is anything close to free speech?

[For those who's assumptions rule their perception: I am *not* arguing
that all speech should be subsidized. I am merely pointing out that
the organization that is spending the money to broadcast is
controlling the speech, hence it is *not* free speech in terms of
freedom or cost.]
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NODE 69f27a07Re: Does John Gilmore...
On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Dave Hayes wrote:

> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:16:14 -0800
> From: Dave Hayes <dave@kachina.jetcafe.org>
> To: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
> Cc: freedom-knights@jetcafe.org, cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: Does John Gilmore... 
> 
> > The free market will ever be the only real path to free speech, because,
> > in essence, it is free speech.
> > Free speech does not, however, require that all speech be universally
> > broadcast to each and every citizen on the planet free of charge.  That's
> > "subsidized speech."
> 
> Given that the free market rule is "he who has the money makes the
> rules", please explain how anything less than "subsidized speech" (as
> you put it) is anything close to free speech?
> 
> [For those who's assumptions rule their perception: I am *not* arguing
> that all speech should be subsidized. I am merely pointing out that
> the organization that is spending the money to broadcast is
> controlling the speech, hence it is *not* free speech in terms of
> freedom or cost.]


Again, you confuse free speech with free broadcast.


> ------
> Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org 
> Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet
> 
>                 If you want to get rid of somebody, 
>             just tell them something for their own good.
> 

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