Re: [REBUTTAL] Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News

Igor "Gadzooks" Chudov writes:
> Dave Hayes wrote:
> > You won't do this, because I won't let you on the list. I, unlike you
> > or Mr. Gilmore, have the judgement on whom to invite to my list.
> So what's the difference between yours and gilmore's position?

Simple. I choose whom to invite to my parties. Gilmore provides an
open door.

> Long live USENET Cabal!

Neither life nor death, neither good nor bad, neither left nor right,
none of these things to the USENET Cabal. 
------
Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org 
Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet

           Real charity doesn't care if it's tax-deductible or not.

Isn't choosing who to invite to your parties, or to invite on your mailing
list, an act of private censorship? "Freedom" Knights, indeed.

-Declan



On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Dave Hayes wrote:

> Igor "Gadzooks" Chudov writes:
> > Dave Hayes wrote:
> > > You won't do this, because I won't let you on the list. I, unlike you
> > > or Mr. Gilmore, have the judgement on whom to invite to my list.
> > So what's the difference between yours and gilmore's position?
> 
> Simple. I choose whom to invite to my parties. Gilmore provides an
> open door.
> 
> > Long live USENET Cabal!
> 
> Neither life nor death, neither good nor bad, neither left nor right,
> none of these things to the USENET Cabal. 
> ------
> Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org 
> Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet
> 
>            Real charity doesn't care if it's tax-deductible or not.
> 
>

Dave Hayes wrote:
> Igor "Gadzooks" Chudov writes:
> > Dave Hayes wrote:
> > > You won't do this, because I won't let you on the list. I, unlike you
> > > or Mr. Gilmore, have the judgement on whom to invite to my list.
> > So what's the difference between yours and gilmore's position?
> 
> Simple. I choose whom to invite to my parties. Gilmore provides an
> open door.

Providing an open door does not mean that it is always open to everyone, 
Dave. It only means that it is open to all by default, but that policy
can be reversed for certain individuals. That is not to say that I agree
with Gilmore's the decision to kick Vulis out from cypherpunks, but John's
decision was neither dishonorable nor he was acting outside his powers,
in my opinion.

	- Igor.