NODE 996b5096Re: Compromise proposal
Dave Hayes <dave@kachina.jetcafe.org>Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:49:58 -0800 (PST)
> [this goes to cypherpunks@toad.com and freedom-knights@jetcafe.org. I am
> not reading f-k, but I am interested in Dave Hayes's opinion.]
What weight can my opinion possibly have? This list is apparently
owned by a Mr. John Gilmore. If he's being censorous, that's bad,
but it is apparently within his means to execute said censorship.
> Many members of cypherpunks list are right when they oppose the forced
> unsubscription of Dimitri Vulis from this list. The sorry state of this
> list is not the result of his flames alone, there is a large number of
> people who discuss things of no cryptographic relevance.
Not to speak for the cypherpunks (we all know their reputation) but I
should think the cypherpunks are savvy enough to know the subjectivity
of the term "on-topic".
> I propose the following:
> 1) The block on Dimitri Vulis's subscriptions should be removed
> 2) We should not impose any limitations on anyone's speech except 3)
> 3) Dimitri and everyone else should put prefix "[FLAME]"
> into all Subject: header fields of their flame-related
> messages.
Gee. What a great idea.
> This solution will allow anyone with a clue to use appropriate filtering
> and improve the signal-noise ratio, and at the same time will not in any
> way limit anyone's freedom of speech.
Improving signal to noise is a laughable goal at a social event of
more than 100 people, why do people insist upon trying it on the net?
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NODE 7fc0bef6Re: Compromise proposal
ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home)Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:15:45 -0800 (PST)
Dave Hayes wrote:
> > This solution will allow anyone with a clue to use appropriate filtering
> > and improve the signal-noise ratio, and at the same time will not in any
> > way limit anyone's freedom of speech.
>
> Improving signal to noise is a laughable goal at a social event of
> more than 100 people, why do people insist upon trying it on the net?
To save time?
- Igor.