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manifold::~==>premail -t cypherpunks@toad.com
Chain: haystack;jam
Subject: I urgently need a lot of money.

Please share your money-making secrets, I am in a desperate need
for cash.

"Igor 'FUCK MNE HARDER' Chudov @ home" <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:

> manifold::~==>premail -t cypherpunks@toad.com
> Chain: haystack;jam
> Subject: I urgently need a lot of money.
>
> Please share your money-making secrets, I am in a desperate need
> for cash.

For shame! Igor Chewed-off disgraces his Chewish Mommy by even asking. Isn't
propensity for "gesheft" genetic? Here's another money-making idea for Igor:

Igor obtains a list of e-mail addresses of people interested in equity-related
investments (e.g. by watching misc.invest.* and sending the posters / those who
voted for their creation unsolicited e-mail; or by posting anonymous ads,
inviting the readers to reply to a reply block in order to receive 3 free
promotional issues of an investment advice newsletter; or even by starting up
his own private financial derivatives mailing list). Igor divides the mailing
list into 2^3=8 parts, and gives them exotic Russian-sounding names: Aleksej,
Boris, Vasilij, Grigorij, Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, Zoya.

Igor then uses an anonymous remailer to spam everyone on his mailing list with
the 8 variants of the following message: "Congratulations! You have won 3 free
issued of the _Boris Investment Newsletter, published in Tulsa, Oklahoma, by a
proud holder of a Master's Degree in Financial Engineering from the Moscow
State University. I predict that within the next month Adobe stock will go up."

Instead of "Boris", Igor will substitute one of the 8 newsletter names; instead
of Adobe, he can use any volatile stock that's as likely to go up as down; and
the predicted stock price movement will be "up" in the first four newsletters
and "down" in the other four.

One month later the stock in question is either up or down. Without loss of
generality, suppose that it's gone down. Aleksej, Boris, Vasilij, and
Grigorij's investment advice was wrong, they disappear from the face of the
earth, and the former recipients of their newsletters don't get bothered any
more. (Or they could be recycled for future scams; or they could be send the
remaining 2 issues of worthless advice, as promised.) On the other hand
Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, and Zoya guessed right, so this time they send out a
new investment newsletter via the anonymous remailers:

"Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsletter
from Zoya in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Last month I correctly predicted that Adobe will
have gone down. If you're smart, you've shorted Adobe's stock and made lots of
money by now. This month I predict that Cisco will go _down as well."

Again, Dmitrij and Elena predict that some other volatile stock goes up, while
Zhenja and Zoya predict that it goes down. Suppose D&E are right. Igor leaves
the Zh.&Z. partitions alone. One month later D&E's subscribers get letter #3:

"Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsletter
from Elena in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Two months ago I predicted that Adobe would go
down. I hope you sold it short. Last month I predicted that Cisco would go up.
I hope you bought it. This month I predict that Lucent will go _up."

One month later one of the two is right, so its recipients get the fourth and
final e-mail from an anonymous remailer, this time using a reply block:

"I've given you three free stock tips over the last 3 months which probably
made you a lot of money. Now that you've seen my track record, you'll want to
continue receiving my free advice, but the free promotion is over. Please send
$20 in untraceable digital cash to this reply block to receive 6 future
issues."

Quite a few people would risk the $20, but that would be the last they hear
from Igor. :-)

(Alternatively, he can even e-mail 6 more issues of worthless advice to those
who caughed up the $20, so they can't complain. It would be hard to prosecute
Igor without proving that all 8 newsletters were published by the same person
who's been giving contradictory advice to different people.)

"Credibility is expendable." - John Gilmore

---

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 12:22:48 EST
> From: "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv@bwalk.dm.com>
> Reply-To: freedom-knights@jetcafe.org
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Money-making ideas for Igor Chudov
> 
> "Igor 'FUCK MNE HARDER' Chudov @ home" <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
> 

algebra.com is a suspect domain.

> > manifold::~==>premail -t cypherpunks@toad.com
> > Chain: haystack;jam
> > Subject: I urgently need a lot of money.
> >
> > Please share your money-making secrets, I am in a desperate need
> > for cash.
> 
> For shame! Igor Chewed-off disgraces his Chewish Mommy by even asking. Isn't
> propensity for "gesheft" genetic? Here's another money-making idea for Igor:
> 
> Igor obtains a list of e-mail addresses of people interested in equity-related
> investments (e.g. by watching misc.invest.* and sending the posters / those who
> voted for their creation unsolicited e-mail; or by posting anonymous ads,
> inviting the readers to reply to a reply block in order to receive 3 free
> promotional issues of an investment advice newsletter; or even by starting up
> his own private financial derivatives mailing list). Igor divides the mailing
> list into 2^3=8 parts, and gives them exotic Russian-sounding names: Aleksej,
> Boris, Vasilij, Grigorij, Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, Zoya.
> 
> Igor then uses an anonymous remailer to spam everyone on his mailing list with
> the 8 variants of the following message: "Congratulations! You have won 3 free
> issued of the _Boris Investment Newsletter, published in Tulsa, Oklahoma, by a
> proud holder of a Master's Degree in Financial Engineering from the Moscow
> State University. I predict that within the next month Adobe stock will go up."
> 
> Instead of "Boris", Igor will substitute one of the 8 newsletter names; instead
> of Adobe, he can use any volatile stock that's as likely to go up as down; and
> the predicted stock price movement will be "up" in the first four newsletters
> and "down" in the other four.
> 
> One month later the stock in question is either up or down. Without loss of
> generality, suppose that it's gone down. Aleksej, Boris, Vasilij, and
> Grigorij's investment advice was wrong, they disappear from the face of the
> earth, and the former recipients of their newsletters don't get bothered any
> more. (Or they could be recycled for future scams; or they could be send the
> remaining 2 issues of worthless advice, as promised.) On the other hand
> Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, and Zoya guessed right, so this time they send out a
> new investment newsletter via the anonymous remailers:
> 
> "Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsletter
> from Zoya in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Last month I correctly predicted that Adobe will
> have gone down. If you're smart, you've shorted Adobe's stock and made lots of
> money by now. This month I predict that Cisco will go _down as well."
> 
> Again, Dmitrij and Elena predict that some other volatile stock goes up, while
> Zhenja and Zoya predict that it goes down. Suppose D&E are right. Igor leaves
> the Zh.&Z. partitions alone. One month later D&E's subscribers get letter #3:
> 
> "Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsletter
> from Elena in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Two months ago I predicted that Adobe would go
> down. I hope you sold it short. Last month I predicted that Cisco would go up.
> I hope you bought it. This month I predict that Lucent will go _up."
> 
> One month later one of the two is right, so its recipients get the fourth and
> final e-mail from an anonymous remailer, this time using a reply block:
> 
> "I've given you three free stock tips over the last 3 months which probably
> made you a lot of money. Now that you've seen my track record, you'll want to
> continue receiving my free advice, but the free promotion is over. Please send
> $20 in untraceable digital cash to this reply block to receive 6 future
> issues."
> 
> Quite a few people would risk the $20, but that would be the last they hear
> from Igor. :-)
> 
> (Alternatively, he can even e-mail 6 more issues of worthless advice to those
> who caughed up the $20, so they can't complain. It would be hard to prosecute
> Igor without proving that all 8 newsletters were published by the same person
> who's been giving contradictory advice to different people.)
> 
But what Law would you charge him with?
Unless you could prove his "intent" I see no way that you
could ever prove any case against him.


> "Credibility is expendable." - John Gilmore
> 

He just says that because he spent his.

> ---
> 
> Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
> Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
> 

when we got the info that the Startronix was going to be late,
we sold STNX short at $1.03 ...

They are almost two months late; is STNX it a hoax?


-aga

aga <aga@dhp.com> writes:
> >
> > "Igor 'FUCK MNE HARDER' Chudov @ home" <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
>
> algebra.com is a suspect domain.

Yes, Dr. Grubor - it's been implicated in Jan Isley's (spit) Usenet vote fraud:

]From: Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>
  (spit)
]Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.invest,sci.econ,sci.econ.research,sci.stat.math
]Subject: RESULT: sci.finance.abstracts moderated passes 299:22
]Supersedes: <833766203.25886@uunet.uu.net>
]Followup-To: news.groups
]Date: 16 Jun 1996 20:53:15 -0400
]Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
]Lines: 475
]Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
  (spit)
]Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net
]Message-ID: <834972791.18156@uunet.uu.net>
]References: <832958763.9345@uunet.uu.net> <833766203.25886@uunet.uu.net>
]NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
]Archive-Name: sci.finance.abstracts
]
]                                RESULT
]         moderated group sci.finance.abstracts passes 299:22
]
]sci.finance.abstracts results - 321 valid votes
]
] Yes  No  | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group
]---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | -------------------------------------------
] 299   22 | Yes  Yes |  Yes | sci.finance.abstracts
]   32 invalid votes
...
][ notes on the voter list:
]
]  31 "suspicious" votes from manifold.algebra.com were invalidated.
]  Most of the acks bounced and no response was recieved after multiple
]  attempts to verify the voters.
...
]
]Invalid ballots
]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
]antosha@manifold.algebra.com                                    Anton Prokofiev
]    ! site invalidated
]blin@manifold.algebra.com                                             Bobby Lin
]    ! site invalidated
]brown@manifold.algebra.com                                           Brad Brown
]    ! site invalidated
]doug@manifold.algebra.com                                         Doug Hamilton
]    ! site invalidated
]dyer@manifold.algebra.com                                             Rock Dyer
]    ! site invalidated
]gcooper@manifold.algebra.com                                        Greg Cooper
]    ! site invalidated
]gunboy@manifold.algebra.com                                      Ronald Trecker
]    ! site invalidated
]kjh@manifold.algebra.com                                          Ken J. Hunter
]    ! site invalidated
]lenka@manifold.algebra.com                                        Elena Zaiceva
]    ! site invalidated
]mccaig@manifold.algebra.com                                       Andrew McCaig
]    ! site invalidated
]mel.lunch@manifold.algebra.com                                        Mel Lynch
]    ! site invalidated
]mikeb@manifold.algebra.com                                           Mike Burke
]    ! site invalidated
]mil@manifold.algebra.com                                         Milton Parrott
]    ! site invalidated
]milman@manifold.algebra.com                                        Jerry Milman
]    ! site invalidated
]mjohnson@manifold.algebra.com                                      Mark Johnson
]    ! site invalidated
]mklein@manifold.algebra.com                                        Martin Klein
]    ! site invalidated
]msidorova@manifold.algebra.com                                  Marina Sidorova
]    ! site invalidated
]munze@manifold.algebra.com                                          Martin Unze
]    ! site invalidated
]nastya@manifold.algebra.com                                              Nastya
]    ! site invalidated
]natasha@manifold.algebra.com                                         Natasha K.
]    ! site invalidated
]owen@manifold.algebra.com                                            Larry Owen
]    ! site invalidated
]pizza@manifold.algebra.com                                      Sergey Filippov
]    ! site invalidated
]rcross@manifold.algebra.com                                       Russell Cross
]    ! site invalidated
]rhenderson@manifold.algebra.com                                   Ron Henderson
]    ! site invalidated
]sexguru@manifold.algebra.com                                Anthony Del Vecchio
]    ! site invalidated
]smk@manifold.algebra.com                                        David Shoemaker
]    ! site invalidated
]tar@manifold.algebra.com                                        Mikhail Tarutin
]    ! site invalidated
]tarasik@manifold.algebra.com                                      Taras Leonoff
]    ! site invalidated
]volk@manifold.algebra.com                                        Mikhail Volkov
]    ! site invalidated
]whale@manifold.algebra.com                                      James S. Whaley
]    ! site invalidated
]willis@manifold.algebra.com                                          Tim Willis
]    ! site invalidated

Please consider declaring algebra.com and video-collage.com rogue sites.

> > > manifold::~==>premail -t cypherpunks@toad.com
> > > Chain: haystack;jam
> > > Subject: I urgently need a lot of money.
> > >
> > > Please share your money-making secrets, I am in a desperate need
> > > for cash.
> >
> > For shame! Igor Chewed-off disgraces his Chewish Mommy by even asking. Isn'
> > propensity for "gesheft" genetic? Here's another money-making idea for Igor
> >
> > Igor obtains a list of e-mail addresses of people interested in equity-rela
> > investments (e.g. by watching misc.invest.* and sending the posters / those
> > voted for their creation unsolicited e-mail; or by posting anonymous ads,
> > inviting the readers to reply to a reply block in order to receive 3 free
> > promotional issues of an investment advice newsletter; or even by starting
> > his own private financial derivatives mailing list). Igor divides the maili
> > list into 2^3=8 parts, and gives them exotic Russian-sounding names: Alekse
> > Boris, Vasilij, Grigorij, Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, Zoya.
> >
> > Igor then uses an anonymous remailer to spam everyone on his mailing list w
> > the 8 variants of the following message: "Congratulations! You have won 3 f
> > issued of the _Boris Investment Newsletter, published in Tulsa, Oklahoma, b
> > proud holder of a Master's Degree in Financial Engineering from the Moscow
> > State University. I predict that within the next month Adobe stock will go
> >
> > Instead of "Boris", Igor will substitute one of the 8 newsletter names; ins
> > of Adobe, he can use any volatile stock that's as likely to go up as down;
> > the predicted stock price movement will be "up" in the first four newslette
> > and "down" in the other four.
> >
> > One month later the stock in question is either up or down. Without loss of
> > generality, suppose that it's gone down. Aleksej, Boris, Vasilij, and
> > Grigorij's investment advice was wrong, they disappear from the face of the
> > earth, and the former recipients of their newsletters don't get bothered an
> > more. (Or they could be recycled for future scams; or they could be send th
> > remaining 2 issues of worthless advice, as promised.) On the other hand
> > Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, and Zoya guessed right, so this time they send out
> > new investment newsletter via the anonymous remailers:
> >
> > "Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsle
> > from Zoya in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Last month I correctly predicted that Adobe w
> > have gone down. If you're smart, you've shorted Adobe's stock and made lots
> > money by now. This month I predict that Cisco will go _down as well."
> >
> > Again, Dmitrij and Elena predict that some other volatile stock goes up, wh
> > Zhenja and Zoya predict that it goes down. Suppose D&E are right. Igor leav
> > the Zh.&Z. partitions alone. One month later D&E's subscribers get letter #
> >
> > "Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsle
> > from Elena in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Two months ago I predicted that Adobe would
> > down. I hope you sold it short. Last month I predicted that Cisco would go
> > I hope you bought it. This month I predict that Lucent will go _up."
> >
> > One month later one of the two is right, so its recipients get the fourth a
> > final e-mail from an anonymous remailer, this time using a reply block:
> >
> > "I've given you three free stock tips over the last 3 months which probably
> > made you a lot of money. Now that you've seen my track record, you'll want
> > continue receiving my free advice, but the free promotion is over. Please s
> > $20 in untraceable digital cash to this reply block to receive 6 future
> > issues."
> >
> > Quite a few people would risk the $20, but that would be the last they hear
> > from Igor. :-)
> >
> > (Alternatively, he can even e-mail 6 more issues of worthless advice to tho
> > who caughed up the $20, so they can't complain. It would be hard to prosecu
> > Igor without proving that all 8 newsletters were published by the same pers
> > who's been giving contradictory advice to different people.)
> >
> But what Law would you charge him with?
> Unless you could prove his "intent" I see no way that you
> could ever prove any case against him.

The intent is to defraud, but shouldn't absolute free speech protect fraud
and libel?

> > "Credibility is expendable." - John Gilmore
>
> He just says that because he spent his.

That's very true - he has none left whatsoever. What a sorry piece of work.

---

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 22:03:06 EST
> From: "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv@bwalk.dm.com>
> Reply-To: freedom-knights@jetcafe.org
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: Money-making ideas for Igor Chudov
> 
> aga <aga@dhp.com> writes:
> > >
> > > "Igor 'FUCK MNE HARDER' Chudov @ home" <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
> >
> > algebra.com is a suspect domain.
> 
> Yes, Dr. Grubor - it's been implicated in Jan Isley's (spit) Usenet vote fraud:

I did not know about that.  I was speaking of another incident
when a user from that domain sent something to my pgh.org

(chop)

> > > (Alternatively, he can even e-mail 6 more issues of worthless advice to tho
> > > who caughed up the $20, so they can't complain. It would be hard to prosecu
> > > Igor without proving that all 8 newsletters were published by the same pers
> > > who's been giving contradictory advice to different people.)
> > >
> > But what Law would you charge him with?
> > Unless you could prove his "intent" I see no way that you
> > could ever prove any case against him.
> 
> The intent is to defraud, but shouldn't absolute free speech protect fraud
> and libel?
> 

Fraud always must have theft connected with it, so it is
a crime, but libel is never any crime, and is only civil.
Freedom of speech is no defense to any criminal charge,
but may be to a civil one.

-jg

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> "Igor 'FUCK MNE HARDER' Chudov @ home" <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
> Instead of "Boris", Igor will substitute one of the 8 newsletter names; instead
> of Adobe, he can use any volatile stock that's as likely to go up as down; and
> the predicted stock price movement will be "up" in the first four newsletters
> and "down" in the other four.
> 
> One month later the stock in question is either up or down. Without loss of
> generality, suppose that it's gone down. Aleksej, Boris, Vasilij, and
> Grigorij's investment advice was wrong, they disappear from the face of the
> earth, and the former recipients of their newsletters don't get bothered any
> more. (Or they could be recycled for future scams; or they could be send the
> remaining 2 issues of worthless advice, as promised.) On the other hand
> Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, and Zoya guessed right, so this time they send out a
> new investment newsletter via the anonymous remailers:
> 
> "Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsletter
> from Zoya in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Last month I correctly predicted that Adobe will
> have gone down. If you're smart, you've shorted Adobe's stock and made lots of
> money by now. This month I predict that Cisco will go _down as well."
> 
> Again, Dmitrij and Elena predict that some other volatile stock goes up, while
> Zhenja and Zoya predict that it goes down. Suppose D&E are right. Igor leaves
> the Zh.&Z. partitions alone. One month later D&E's subscribers get letter #3:
> 
> "Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsletter
> from Elena in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Two months ago I predicted that Adobe would go
> down. I hope you sold it short. Last month I predicted that Cisco would go up.
> I hope you bought it. This month I predict that Lucent will go _up."
> 
> One month later one of the two is right, so its recipients get the fourth and
> final e-mail from an anonymous remailer, this time using a reply block:
> 
> "I've given you three free stock tips over the last 3 months which probably
> made you a lot of money. Now that you've seen my track record, you'll want to
> continue receiving my free advice, but the free promotion is over. Please send
> $20 in untraceable digital cash to this reply block to receive 6 future
> issues."
> 
> Quite a few people would risk the $20, but that would be the last they hear
> from Igor. :-)
> 
> (Alternatively, he can even e-mail 6 more issues of worthless advice to those
> who caughed up the $20, so they can't complain. It would be hard to prosecute
> Igor without proving that all 8 newsletters were published by the same person
> who's been giving contradictory advice to different people.)

I can send all newsletters signed by myself, but claim that they are
produced by different numerical models for predicting (or derivatives')
returns. This way, even though I send out contradictory advice, I
could always say that I had several experimental programs.

It seems though that the market for advise newsletter has been saturated
by people who give random advices and hope to hit a jackpot, like
Garzarelli did with her "sell" advice before the '87 crash.

So my letters would be hardly noticed.

	- Igor.

So now we know who's responsible for the "anonymous" spam to this mailing list,
such as the obscene ASCII art and for calling Matt Blaze a "homosexual Jew"...

"Igor 'FUCK MNE HARDER' Chudov @ home" <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:

> manifold::~==>premail -t cypherpunks@toad.com
> Chain: haystack;jam
> Subject: I urgently need a lot of money.
>
> Please share your money-making secrets, I am in a desperate need
> for cash.

A very old scheme, which a lot of Americans still fall for, can be modernized
using anonymous remailers (with a reply block) and anonymous digital cash.

Here's the outline: Igor Chudov posts an article via an anonymous remailer
saying: "Contact this (untraceable) e-mail address to learn how you can make
thousands of digital dollars a week just by sending e-mail." If he distributes
it widely enough, quite a few suckers will send for more information.

Igor will then send each sucker another e-mail giving little information and
requesting, say, $5 in untraceable digital cash for an information packet.

Those suckers who manage to send Igor the $5 get the third e-mail, explaining
how to use the anonymous remailers and untraceable digital cash to sucker
others into paying them $5 for the same information package.

Here's a recent Usenet article describing a similar scheme, using newspaper
ads and snail mail.

]Path: ...!news.rns.net!flint.sentex.net!usenet
]From: msabbagh@sentex.net
]Newsgroups: ab.jobs,atl.jobs,aus.ads.jobs,austin.jobs,az.jobs,ba.jobs,ba.jobs.misc,bc.jobs,bln.jobs,can.jobs,chi.jobs,cmh.jobs,co.jobs,dc.jobs,dfw.jobs,dk.jobs,fl.jobs,il.jobs.misc,in.jobs,kw.jobs,la.jobs,li.jobs,mi.jobs,misc.jobs,misc.jobs.misc,nb.jobs,ne.jobs,ont.jobs,ott.jobs,stl.jobs,su.jobs,tor.jobs,tx.jobs,uk.jobs.d,us.jobs,us.jobs.misc,ut.jobs,za.ads.jobs,alt.jobs,io.jobs,eunet.jobs,b
]Subject: Everybody please  please read this!
]Message-ID: <32828546.724E@sentex.net>
]Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 16:56:38 -0800
]References: <3281e88b.115644218@news2.compulink.com>
]Reply-To: msabbagh@sentex.net
]Organization: sentex.net
]Lines: 57
]NNTP-Posting-Host: p7.radium.sentex.ca
]Mime-Version: 1.0
]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
]Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
]
]Homeworkers wrote:
]>
]> Join the over 25,       000,000 people world-wide already working from
]> home.   Free details!
]>
]> In Canada, send self-addressed stamped envelope.   Outside Canada,
]> send name and address plus $2 in US funds for shipping and handling.
]>
]> Mail To:                Work-at-Home
]>                 600 Thornton Road North, Suite 408
]>                 Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
]>                 L1J 6T6
]
]
]"When are you guys going to stop these gimmicks!?"
]
]At the begining of this year (1996) I came to Canada as an immegrant. Of
]course, the first step was to look for job. I went through all possible
]sources of information at Toronto: "Employment News" "Toronto Classified
]Address"....etc. Always, I was facing this type of attractive ads. to
]work from home and earn $1000 / week.
]
]As a newcomer I did not know what was going on, and I needed desperately
]an income (honest income) to feed myself and small family.
]
]I decided to try one of these ads. it was "Northern Communications
]Enterprise", Toronto, the name looked to me as a very large Corporation;
]since I was a newcomer and I have no idea about the real companies.
]
]I mailed a self addressed stamped envalope as requested; I receieve in
]return one tricky page article; asking me at the end to send a cheque
]with C$35 to send me the "Magical" information to earn $1000/week;
]unforetunatly, I did so!.
]
]After couple of weeks, I received a booklet of 30 pages (all junke and
]empty circle information) it ends teaching you that what you have to do
]is to paste or advertise simillar ads. to the one I read at the first
]time "Earn $1000/week from home by stuffing envalopes", in deffrent type
]of media (newspaper, internet, flyer....etc) and do the same trick by
]photocopying their valueless booklet and mail it to the person who paid
]me C$35.
]
]Of course, I didn't agree, not because I can not do it, but, because I
]refused to be a part of this illegal and immoral way of earning mony!.
]
]What concerns me, that how can reputable newspapers, and papers like
]"Employment news" justify their advertisement to such tricky and
]imaginary "Enterprises"  just for few dollars. These papers are supposed
]to be directed to people like me who was a serious individual and
]desperately looking for a job, and needed each Penny of his mony to
]establish himself at his new country!.
]
]"Please do not be victim to these types of ads."
]
]Regards to all.
]
]Mason.

"Credibility is expendable." -John Gilmore

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