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A really short one time pad.

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NODE 59cdd8b1A really short one time pad.
Actually, here are ten.
2^.5
3^.5
2^(1/3)
5^.5
5^(1/3)
7^.5
11^.5
13^.5
17^.5
Pi
For that patter the nth root of any prime number.
A lifetime of "pads" could be distributed in one trip.  Of course this still
means that you have to make the trip, and write down all of the above with a
referring codeword or number.
Cheap, I know.  Wonder if this type of "one time pad" is as foolproof as
truly randomly generated ones.
NODE 9ac9b7f8Re: A really short one time pad.
At 5:39 PM -0800 11/12/96, Sean Roach wrote:
>Actually, here are ten.
>2^.5
>3^.5
>2^(1/3)
>5^.5
>5^(1/3)
>7^.5
>11^.5
>13^.5
>17^.5
>Pi
>For that patter the nth root of any prime number.
>A lifetime of "pads" could be distributed in one trip.  Of course this still
>means that you have to make the trip, and write down all of the above with a
>referring codeword or number.
>Cheap, I know.  Wonder if this type of "one time pad" is as foolproof as
>truly randomly generated ones.

You needn't wonder. These are not one time pads. Read any opening chapter
of any book on crypto to see why.

However, there might be a good company you could put together around this idea.

(I wonder why nobody has thought of something so easy....)


--Tim


"The government announcement is disastrous," said Jim Bidzos,.."We warned IBM
that the National Security Agency would try to twist their technology."
[NYT, 1996-10-02]
We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed.
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Timothy C. May              | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
tcmay@got.net  408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA  | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
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"National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
NODE f325169fRe: A really short one time pad.
On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:

> At 5:39 PM -0800 11/12/96, Sean Roach wrote:
> >Actually, here are ten.
> >2^.5
> >3^.5
> >2^(1/3)
> >5^.5
> >5^(1/3)
> >7^.5
> >11^.5
> >13^.5
> >17^.5
> >Pi
> >For that patter the nth root of any prime number.
> >A lifetime of "pads" could be distributed in one trip.  Of course this still
> >means that you have to make the trip, and write down all of the above with a
> >referring codeword or number.
> >Cheap, I know.  Wonder if this type of "one time pad" is as foolproof as
> >truly randomly generated ones.
> 
> You needn't wonder. These are not one time pads. Read any opening chapter
> of any book on crypto to see why.
> 
> However, there might be a good company you could put together around this idea.
> 
> (I wonder why nobody has thought of something so easy....)
> 
this was proposed a couple months ago by a Robert Shueey, he first posted 
asking if "Irrational=Random".
not sure if he got any responses. 

> 
> --Tim
> 
> 
> "The government announcement is disastrous," said Jim Bidzos,.."We warned IBM
> that the National Security Agency would try to twist their technology."
> [NYT, 1996-10-02]
> We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed.
> ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:----
> Timothy C. May              | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
> tcmay@got.net  408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
> W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA  | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
> Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments.
> "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
> 
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