ANNOUNCEMENT: New low-noise cryptography mailing list

[Sorry that this is several weeks late, folks.]

"Cryptography" is a low-noise mailing list devoted to cryptographic
technology and its political impact.

WHAT TOPICS ARE APPROPRIATE:
  "On topic" discussion includes technical aspects of cryptosystems,
  social repercussions of cryptosystems, and the politics of
  cryptography such as export controls or laws restricting cryptography.

  Discussions unrelated to cryptography are considered "off topic".

  If you subscribe, please try to keep your postings "on topic". In
  order to assure that the quality of postings to the mailing list
  remains high, repeated postings "off topic" may result in action
  being taken by the list moderators.

MODERATION POLICY:
  In order to keep the signal to noise ratio high, the mailing list
  will be moderated during its initial weeks of operation. This will
  be changed if it appears that the list will remain on topic without
  moderation.

TO SUBSCRIBE: send mail to
     majordomo@c2.net
  with the line
     subscribe cryptography
  in the body of your mail. If you wish to subscribe a mailing
  address other than the one you are sending from, send a message with
  the line
     subscribe cryptography [address]

Meta-question: if someone posts strong crypto source code to the
moderated mailing list, can the moderator(s) be prosecuted under ITAR?

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> Meta-question: if someone posts strong crypto source code to the
> moderated mailing list, can the moderator(s) be prosecuted under ITAR?

The moderator would not prosecuted if the moderator & host machine wasn't 
located in USA and not a USA citizen and if the post was not from USA. 

The poster may be a target if located inside USA or a USA citizen. The 
moderator might be prosecuted if the post originated inside USA or went 
through USA to be exported outside USA & Canada.

Welcome to the rest of the world.

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Michael C. Taylor <mctaylor@mta.ca>
Programmer, Mount Allison University

"Michael C Taylor (CSD)" <mctaylor@olympus.mta.ca> writes:

> On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> 
> > Meta-question: if someone posts strong crypto source code to the
> > moderated mailing list, can the moderator(s) be prosecuted under ITAR?
> 
> The moderator would not prosecuted if the moderator & host machine wasn't 
> located in USA and not a USA citizen and if the post was not from USA. 
> 
> The poster may be a target if located inside USA or a USA citizen. The 
> moderator might be prosecuted if the post originated inside USA or went 
> through USA to be exported outside USA & Canada.

Years ago I was participating in a moderated cryptography mailing list
hosted in Japan. I'm sorry I don't recall the name of our gracious
moderated from Tohoku U. Eventually he had no time for it and let it die.
Anyway I recall posting Gilmore's DES code to that list. How ironic.

Anyway, it looks like almost every packet these days goes via mae-west and/or
mae-east.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps