Official Prediction [was:Re: New export controls to include code signing applications]

At 05:34 PM 12/11/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote:
>They're really looking desperate, aren't they? They try to limit the export
>of crypto software, they try to limit the export of anything with "hooks"
>for adding crypto outside the U.S., they try to limit export of crypto
>knowledge, and here they're even trying to limit _signing_ software?

They have a very simple bottom line. Ban strong crypto. Eliminate loopholes. 

>What's next? Maybe they'll try to limit the dispensing of _legal advice_ by
>U.S. attorneys to foreign clients.
>(I keep using the phrase "they try to" becuase obviously few of these
>schemes to keep the horses in the barn will work.)

Official Prediction (For new readers of this list, once in a while I make an "official prediction". That means the reader is urged to call me on it and, yes, I take bets):

The US will make the following acts illegal and or subject to licensing within two years:
1. Production of strong crypto for sale abroad by a subsidiary of a US corporation.
2. Production of strong crypto for sale abroad, if the project is financed by a US corporation. Alternatively, US companies might be prohibited to financially benefit from such a product.

I am not saying that these acts will be prohibited in all cases. I am saying that they will be prohibited in some cases.





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::<bold>Official Prediction</bold> (For new readers of this list, once in a
::while I make an "official prediction". That means the reader is urged to call
::me on it and, yes, I take bets):
::
::<bold>The US will make the following acts illegal and or subject to licensing
::within two years:
::
::</bold>1. Production of strong crypto for sale abroad by a subsidiary of a US
::corporation.
::
::2. Production of strong crypto for sale abroad, if the project is financed by
::a US corporation. Alternatively, US companies might be prohibited to
::financially benefit from such a product.
::
::I am not saying that these acts will be prohibited in all cases. I am saying
::that they will be prohibited in some cases.
::
        based on information, and direct experience in some "things." 
    I'll raise the ante on <bold>official prediction</bold> one more:

        within two years, Bubba and friends will successfully both:

        a)  destroy the Bill of Rights

        b)  either ban the use of strong crypto or require full real-time
            GAK access --and the law will make the use of non-approved
            crypto a federal felony.

    the first USSC justice who retires (Renquist?) or dies (..?) --the
    precariously rights balance on the Court goes to Bubba.

- --
  Now, with a black jack mule you wish to harness, you walk up, 
  look him in the eye, and hit him with a 2X4 over the left eye.   
  If he blinks, hit him over the right eye! He'll cooperate.  
        --so will politicians.

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The Hun said:
>         within two years, Bubba and friends will successfully both:
>         a)  destroy the Bill of Rights

     He can't. You can't destroy that which is already rubble. 

Petro, Christopher C.
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