NODE a2420a33domestic laws/policies
bobbi <rkluge@nunic.nu.edu>Mon, 23 Dec 1996 19:47:12 -0800 (PST)
hello:
I have been following the controversy regarding cryptographic software
for some time now, and I am hoping that someone on the list could clarify
a point for me:
If I wanted to develop software that employs cryptography, or a
new cryptographic algorithm, strictly for domestic use and sale, does this
algorithm have to be registered with any domestic agency?
There is a great deal of information on Gak, and the controversy
surrounding it, but as of yet I have not been able to find out this type
of information.
thanks
jg
NODE 3269d0e6Re: domestic laws/policies
Bill Frantz <frantz@netcom.com>Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:00:25 -0800 (PST)
At 7:49 PM -0800 12/23/96, bobbi wrote:
>If I wanted to develop software that employs cryptography, or a
>new cryptographic algorithm, strictly for domestic use and sale, does this
>algorithm have to be registered with any domestic agency?
If your algorithm is only for domestic use, then there are no restrictions
and no need to register. However, if even a single copy is illegally
exported, and even if there is no evidence that you helped in its export,
then you may experience a situation similar to Phill Zimmerman's where the
government persecuted him until the statue of limitations ran out.
However judge Patell's decision, if it is applied to you, may make the
export of an academic or even source code description of your algorithm
legal. YMMV.
IMHO, the bottom line is that if you publish in this area you are stepping
onto a battle ground. If you don't want any risk of getting shot at, the
only safe place is not publishing/selling. If you do publish or sell, and
take reasonable precautions to stay within the law, you are fairly safe,
but government harassment can not be ruled out.
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NODE bae23fb9Re: domestic laws/policies
bobbi <rkluge@nunic.nu.edu>Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:00:21 -0800 (PST)
My understanding goes with along with your statements.
I got asked a question the other day and that person emphatically stated
you "must" register the algorithm with the NSA(for domestic use).
I was not aware of this even for exporting software that has cryptographic
capability. If you export software do you have to "register" the
algorithm? Or maybe I should ask - are there any situations where you do
have to register the algorithm? For export I'm only aware that the
strength of the algoritm has to be equal to or less than 40-bit DES.
I think he was getting confused with GAK.
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NODE 3934c03eRe: domestic laws/policies
Bill Frantz <frantz@netcom.com>Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:37:23 -0800 (PST)
At 4:02 PM -0800 12/24/96, bobbi wrote:
>I got asked a question the other day and that person emphatically stated
>you "must" register the algorithm with the NSA(for domestic use).
>I was not aware of this even for exporting software that has cryptographic
>capability. If you export software do you have to "register" the
>algorithm? Or maybe I should ask - are there any situations where you do
>have to register the algorithm? For export I'm only aware that the
>strength of the algoritm has to be equal to or less than 40-bit DES.
You have to describe the algorithm as part of getting an export license, or
commodity jurisdiction. Since this description must be in sufficient
detail so a reader can implement the algorithm, this description might
properly be described as "registration".
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NODE 7dea0888Re: domestic laws/policies
bobbi <rkluge@nunic.nu.edu>Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:44:30 -0800 (PST)
Thank you. That is pretty clear.
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