Off topic litter on Cyperpunks

What has happened to cypherpunks?  I joined this mailing list more recently
than many others who recieve it, but most reacently it has gone downhill.

The descriptions I have read (and I have read many) all state that this
list is deadicated to the discussion of cryptography issues.  Where the
hell is the discussion about cryptography?

Three fourths of the messages I have been recieving are off topic (Ebonics
and "Slaughter").  If I wanted to read about current events and holocost I
would have joined groups that were specified for discussion of those.

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On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, Lurker wrote:

> What has happened to cypherpunks?  I joined this mailing list more recently
> than many others who recieve it, but most reacently it has gone downhill.
> 
> The descriptions I have read (and I have read many) all state that this
> list is deadicated to the discussion of cryptography issues.  Where the
> hell is the discussion about cryptography?
> 
> Three fourths of the messages I have been recieving are off topic (Ebonics
> and "Slaughter").  If I wanted to read about current events and holocost I
> would have joined groups that were specified for discussion of those.
> 

Hrmm.. actually.. Ebonics is more on topic than you realise.  The Ebonics
that they're teaching is really nothing more than a simple trnsposition
cypher.

 --Deviant
   PGP KeyID = E820F015 Fingerprint = 3D6AAB628E3DFAA9 F7D35736ABC56D39

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for
 the good of its victims may be the most oppressive."
		-- C. S. Lewis


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"Lurker" <lurker@mail.tcbi.com> writes:

> What has happened to cypherpunks?  I joined this mailing list more recently
> than many others who recieve it, but most reacently it has gone downhill.
>
> The descriptions I have read (and I have read many) all state that this
> list is deadicated to the discussion of cryptography issues.  Where the
> hell is the discussion about cryptography?

This private mailing list belongs to the asshole censor John Gilmore (spit).
Anyone who foolishly tries to discuss cryptography (like Don Woods) gets flamed
to hell by the likes of Paul "brute force attack one one-time pad" Bradley.
You wanna talk cryptography, go to sci.crypt, an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

Lurker wrote:
> What has happened to cypherpunks?  I joined this mailing list more recently
> than many others who recieve it, but most reacently it has gone downhill.
> The descriptions I have read (and I have read many) all state that this
> list is deadicated to the discussion of cryptography issues.  Where the
> hell is the discussion about cryptography?
> Three fourths of the messages I have been recieving are off topic (Ebonics
> and "Slaughter").  If I wanted to read about current events and holocost I
> would have joined groups that were specified for discussion of those.

Now Lurker, you can go read a discussion of Indo-European culture or
South American sheep grazing on any news group, and if the info posted
there doesn't conflict with any current government interests such as
restricting crypto, then sure, the discussion will be plain and out in
the open for all to see (and who cares anyway, right?).

But you didn't really expect to come here and just get handed the most
interesting technical data on a subject that *does* concern the NSA et
al rather deeply, and not have to do any work?  It's there, but it's
going to take patience and some reading between the lines.  Consider
yourself lucky that you can suscribe to such a list as this, while
such a freedom still exists.