NODE 477dde4dRe: denial of service and government rights
jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>Sun, 1 Dec 1996 11:48:18 -0800 (PST)
At 09:25 PM 11/30/96 -0500, Tired.Fighter@dhp.com wrote:
>On 30 Nov 96 at 13:10, Black Unicorn wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Greg Broiles wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> > I don't see any reason why this wouldn't be true for a
>> > computer. Fed.Rul.Crim.Pro. 41(b)(1) allows the seizure
>> > (but seizure is not forfeiture) of "property that
>> > constitutes evidence of the commission of a
>> > criminal offense".
>>
>> It is true of computers.
>> Take the case of Ripco (the Chicago BBS raided in the
>> SunDevil raids back when).
>>
>> I don't think "Dr. Ripco" has yet gotten his equipment
>> back. I don't know for sure, but what I do know is
>> that 5 years after the raid, he still had certainly
>> not gotten anything back.
Unicorn has a long history of reciting government abuses, but then failing
to provide any sort of answer to them. My solution (AP: "Assassination
Politics") would make such abuse fatal.
Jim Bell
jimbell@pacifier.com
NODE ec877cdfRe: denial of service and government rights
attila@primenet.comSun, 1 Dec 1996 23:27:50 -0800 (PST)
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In <199612011948.LAA08876@mail.pacifier.com>, on 12/01/96
at 11:40 AM, jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com> said:
::Unicorn has a long history of reciting government abuses, but then
::failing to provide any sort of answer to them. My solution (AP:
::"Assassination Politics") would make such abuse fatal.
::
Jim, I knew we could count on you for a solution!
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maybe there is an analogy:
militias: "the only way they'll take my weapon
is from my cooling, smoking hand...."
prez: "the only way they'll take my executive privileges
is to impeach me --IF I consent to leave."
<attila>
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