NODE 496aac20"Family Channel" of the Internet?
Ken Kirksey <kkirksey@appstate.campus.mci.net>Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:45:09 -0800 (PST)
I had a rather interesting conversation today with a man who works for an
individual who is getting into the ISP business. The guy freely admitted
that he was not a technical kind of guy, and was only repeating what he
had been told. The gist of the conversation: this company was going to
try to position itself as, and I quote, "The Family Channel of the
Internet" by going SurfWatch one better. If you sign up with them as
your ISP, you'll only be able to access sites that they have personally
inspected and approved. He said that they were going to do this, again I
quote, "using the same encryption that Visa and Mastercard use." The
last statment pegged my bogometer, of course.
Now, since I know that I don't know everything about crypto, and I know
even less about the inner workings of IP, I'm going to pose a couple of
questions:
1) Is it technically possible for them to limit access to only approved
IP addresses? If so, how can they do this, and is it possible to get
around these measures.
2) What in the world would SET--I assume that was what he was talking
about--have to do with this?
3) In general, how would you use crypto to ensure that your users only
connected to approved sites, regardless of the platform or browser
software they were using?
I asked the guy to send me some technical details. If I receive them,
I'll share unless he makes me sign an NDA.
Ken
NODE 23ddbca2Re: "Family Channel" of the Internet?
"Mark M." <markm@voicenet.com>Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:00:37 -0800 (PST)
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On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Ken Kirksey wrote:
> 1) Is it technically possible for them to limit access to only approved
> IP addresses? If so, how can they do this, and is it possible to get
> around these measures.
Packet filters can do this. This could be thwarted by using a proxy
located on a trusted host. There are more complicated ways (source routing,
IP spoofing, etc.) but these would require the cooperation of the target host.
Very improbable.
> 3) In general, how would you use crypto to ensure that your users only
> connected to approved sites, regardless of the platform or browser
> software they were using?
Crypto would probably only be used for authentication. A simple password
system would work, but wouldn't be as secure, of course. The ISP could
pass the packets through the appropriate filter rules depending on the user.
I don't know how much overhead would be associated with this technique, but
it seems to be the most secure way to do this.
>
> I asked the guy to send me some technical details. If I receive them,
> I'll share unless he makes me sign an NDA.
>
> Ken
>
Mark
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