Re: Ebonics

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At 08:55 AM 12/23/96 -0500, Jeff Barber wrote:
>I've never seen Tim "advocate the unemployment" of anyone or any group.

Funny, did he stutter when he said he regularly *practiced* such
discrimination at Intel?  (Such discrimination being based upon Title VII's
dispirate impact scenario, a law that Tim and others disregard as is their
civic, as in civil disobedience, duty.)  I guess he was unclear when he
stated "Fuck 'em" in a follow up post.  Tim is an anarchist (and I do not
mean that in any derogatory way).  He not only advocates, but he practices
what he preaches.

>He has merely argued that an employer should be free *not* to hire an
>individual for any reason whatsoever.  Such a reason might include his/her
>language/dialect, appearance, race, gender, religion or any other
>(arbitrary-to-an-outsider) criterion.  This is a standard libertarian
>position and shouldn't be too difficult to grasp.

I think Tim's position was that if people couldnt communicate with him or
his supervisors he would not recommend their hire.  He had not stated as
you did above, although I do not doubt it is his belief.

>
>-- Jeff
>

P.S.  I have posted to rebut several political points made on the list only
to show that some of us on the list do not agree with certain viewpoints.
As Tim has pointed out, it has caused an innordinant amount of flame bait
and our signal is getting lost.  I do accept responsibility for setting
some of the fires but will now attempt to reply only to
highly-crypto-relevant material on the list.  Apparently folks get too
excited when others disagree with them.

Matt
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"Matthew J. Miszewski" <mjmiski@execpc.com> writes:
> At 08:55 AM 12/23/96 -0500, Jeff Barber wrote:
> >I've never seen Tim "advocate the unemployment" of anyone or any group.
>
> Funny, did he stutter when he said he regularly *practiced* such
> discrimination at Intel?  (Such discrimination being based upon Title VII's

So, don't buy Intel. AMD's MMX processor supposedly runs circles around Intel.

> dispirate impact scenario, a law that Tim and others disregard as is their
> civic, as in civil disobedience, duty.)  I guess he was unclear when he
> stated "Fuck 'em" in a follow up post.  Tim is an anarchist (and I do not
> mean that in any derogatory way).  He not only advocates, but he practices
> what he preaches.

No - Timmy is a "libertarian" (aka a fucking statist).

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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Matthew J. Miszewski writes:

> At 08:55 AM 12/23/96 -0500, Jeff Barber wrote:
> >I've never seen Tim "advocate the unemployment" of anyone or any group.
> 
> Funny, did he stutter when he said he regularly *practiced* such
> discrimination at Intel?

Matt, buy a dictionary.  "Practicing discrimination" is not the same 
as "advocating unemployment".

I guess when I decline to hire you as my lawyer, I'll be "advocating your
unemployment?"


-- Jeff

Jeff Barber <jeffb@issl.atl.hp.com> writes:

> Matthew J. Miszewski writes:
>
> > At 08:55 AM 12/23/96 -0500, Jeff Barber wrote:
> > >I've never seen Tim "advocate the unemployment" of anyone or any group.
> >
> > Funny, did he stutter when he said he regularly *practiced* such
> > discrimination at Intel?
>
> Matt, buy a dictionary.  "Practicing discrimination" is not the same
> as "advocating unemployment".
>
> I guess when I decline to hire you as my lawyer, I'll be "advocating your
> unemployment?"

Suppose you want to hire a C coder and practice discrimination against
the candidates who don't know any C. Do you advocate their unemployment?
Do you even care, as long as you don't have to pay their salary?

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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