NODE 71cb82f1Re: Ebonics
"Mark Rosen" <mrosen@peganet.com>Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:14:57 -0800 (PST)
> > No. Speaking in Ebonics is the same as speaking with an accent. You
can't
> > control their expression; you learned to speak with a Southern accent
as a
> > child, while other people learned to speak with an Ebonic accent (?).
By
> > condoning speaking in a Southern accent, you condone speaking in
Ebonics.
>
> Whatever rational basis your arguments may have had were eradicated by
the
> ludicrous logical conclusion drawn above.
Hehe. What I mean to say is that since both Ebonics and a Southern accent
are learned during early childhood, you have no control over how you talk.
You can't penalize someone for speaking the way they were taught.
> > I can't understand thick Southern accents. No matter how smart you
are,
> > I'm not going to hire you because I can't understand you. How do you
feel?
>
> Oh so sad. Let me make this clear, an accent is far different from
> grammatically incorrect speech. I can speak with grammatic perfection
and a
> drawl so heavy it'll make your eyeballs hurt.
Yeah. I thought the issue was understanding in the workplace; no matter
how gramatically correct your are, I can't understand you and so I won't
hire you.
NODE 9abb8900Re: Ebonics
"Omegaman" <omega@bigeasy.com>Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:32:19 -0800 (PST)
> > from grammatically incorrect speech. I can speak with grammatic
> > perfection and a
> > drawl so heavy it'll make your eyeballs hurt.
> Yeah. I thought the issue was understanding in the workplace; no
> matter
> how gramatically correct your are, I can't understand you and so I
> won't hire you.
Re-read what I said carefully. I "*can* speak"... I can also speak
more clearly. The same holds true, for speakers of "ebonics."
and it is an insult to their intelligence to imply that they cannot
or cannot easily learn to.
yeehaw.
me
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