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Re: Ebonics

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NODE 75eb7818Re: Ebonics
At 01:30 PM 12/22/96 -0500, Mark Rosen wrote:
>	Hehe. What I mean to say is that since both Ebonics and a Southern accent
>are learned during early childhood, you have no control over how you talk.

This is not true.  The recent commentary and interviews I've seen on this 
subject make it clear that the people speaking "Ebonics" are quite capable 
of speaking in standard English, and do so when they find it, er, convenient.


Jim Bell
jimbell@pacifier.com
NODE 992b510aRe: Ebonics
jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com> writes:

> At 01:30 PM 12/22/96 -0500, Mark Rosen wrote:
> >	Hehe. What I mean to say is that since both Ebonics and a Southern accent
> >are learned during early childhood, you have no control over how you talk.
>
> This is not true.  The recent commentary and interviews I've seen on this
> subject make it clear that the people speaking "Ebonics" are quite capable
> of speaking in standard English, and do so when they find it, er, convenient.

How does this tie into assassination politics?

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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NODE 8feb3298Re: Ebonics
Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com> writes:
> > At 01:30 PM 12/22/96 -0500, Mark Rosen wrote:
> > >Hehe. What I mean to say is that since both Ebonics and a Southern accent
> > >are learned during early childhood, you have no control over how you talk.

> > This is not true.  The recent commentary and interviews I've seen on this
> > subject make it clear that the people speaking "Ebonics" are quite capable
> > of speaking in standard English, and do so when they find it, er, convenient.

> How does this tie into assassination politics?

Some of the postings here about people making a non-hire list because
of their speech "accent" is reminiscent of other forms of targeting.
I thought AP was more oriented toward selection based on behavior,
although in some people's poisoned minds, another person's speech
patterns/accents could be interpreted as behavior.

Don't you suppose that when some of the party-line-liberal (brainwashed)
persons (esp. from the Northeast or the Bay Area) hear a person speaking
in an authentic Southern "accent", that they often feel a twinge of fear,
as though someone from the KKK or whatever has just entered their immediate
surroundings?  I know that sounds kind of silly, but people do have those
knee-jerk reactions to certain visual and auditory clues, particularly
when they've been bombarded by big media with all those stereotypical
images over the years.
NODE a40522cfRe: Ebonics
Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net> writes:
> Don't you suppose that when some of the party-line-liberal (brainwashed)
> persons (esp. from the Northeast or the Bay Area) hear a person speaking
> in an authentic Southern "accent", that they often feel a twinge of fear,
> as though someone from the KKK or whatever has just entered their immediate
> surroundings?  I know that sounds kind of silly, but people do have those
> knee-jerk reactions to certain visual and auditory clues, particularly
> when they've been bombarded by big media with all those stereotypical
> images over the years.

Americans in general are extremely xenophobic and react very negatively
to anyone with a "foreign" accent. A few weeks ago I visited rural
Massachussetts. The people there are extremely hostile even to Americans
who don't speak with their particular regional accent.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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