Re: Cats Out of Bags

David Aaron seems to make lying out of his ass a hobby. His
talk at the RSA conference was such a load of bullshit it wasn't even
funny.

	"Other governments were upset with the 56-bit export
allowance. They said it was going to undermine their national
security."

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> "In an interview Tuesday, [David L.] Aaron [the Feds' Crypto Ambassador] disputed the industry's view that the U.S. efforts to control cryptographic technology are being outstripped by the pace of the technology.
> 
> "When I talk to other governments," he said, "they still don't feel that the cat is out of the bag."
> 
> What the fuck do *they* know?
> 
> DCF
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> "When I talk to other governments," [David L. Aaron] said, 
> "they still don't feel that the cat is out of the bag."

Aaron's denying that the cat is out of the bag?
He was fashionably dressed in a Lion Tamer's outfit,
waving a whip, and trying to herd hundreds of small furry mammals
to jump through a hoop and back into a clawed-up army duffel-bag!
"Cats?  Haven't seen any cats around here!  Pay no attention to these,umm,
Siberian Hamsters that I'm evaluating for export approval."

> "Other governments were upset with the 56-bit export allowance. 
> They said it was going to undermine their national security."

On this point, the other governments are correct.
It really _is_ tougher to maintain a nation-state when your
former subjects can have private conversations with each other
and with other governments' former subjects......
And even 56 bits is a start.



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At 12:10 AM 1/31/97 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
>On this point, the other governments are correct.
>It really _is_ tougher to maintain a nation-state when your
>former subjects can have private conversations with each other
>and with other governments' former subjects......
>And even 56 bits is a start.

You don't have to be nice to nation states you meet on the way up if you're not coming back down.

DCF

sameer <sameer@c2.net> writes:

> 	David Aaron seems to make lying out of his ass a hobby. His
> talk at the RSA conference was such a load of bullshit it wasn't even
> funny.

The above is a flame.  But because Sandy works for Sameer, it was posted
to the censores list, not tosses to "cypherpunks-flames".

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> sameer <sameer@c2.net> writes:
> 
> > 	David Aaron seems to make lying out of his ass a hobby. His
> > talk at the RSA conference was such a load of bullshit it wasn't even
> > funny.
> 
> The above is a flame.  But because Sandy works for Sameer, it was posted
> to the censores list, not tosses to "cypherpunks-flames".

	Hmm, I wonder what Sandy does for Sameer...

	Regards,

OKSAS <oksas@asimov.montclair.edu> writes:

> On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> 
> > sameer <sameer@c2.net> writes:
> > 
> > > 	David Aaron seems to make lying out of his ass a hobby. His
> > > talk at the RSA conference was such a load of bullshit it wasn't even
> > > funny.
> > 
> > The above is a flame.  But because Sandy works for Sameer, it was posted
> > to the censores list, not tosses to "cypherpunks-flames".
> 
> 	Hmm, I wonder what Sandy does for Sameer...
> 
> 	Regards,
> 

Not surprisingly, Sandy (a law school flunky) is a salesman for Sameer.
So is greg broils, who graduated from some obscure law school but
hasn't passed a bar exam. :-)

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