Re: overview.htm (fwd)

Dale Thorn wrote:
> Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> 
> > > > Both homosexual males and IV drug users are well known to take a lot
> > > > of antobiotics, which lowers the efficacy of the immune system enough
> > > > to allow most anything to happen, ultimately leading to auto-immune
> > > > problems.
> 
> > Jim and Dale, I agree.
> > Also shooting one's bloodstream full of fecal matter hardly helps.
> 
> My point about the antibiotics is that the male gays take a dis-
> proportionate amount of them, which compounds their problems.  It
> suggests to me that the immune system is already seriously debilitated
> or damaged before AIDS can take hold, rather than the notion that a
> healthy person can get it from the virii alone.
> 
> One could argue that in the cases where the cures (antibiotics) add to
> a person's problems by further corrupting their immune system, that
> they should simply change their habits.  Since I don't see that as a
> reasonable possibility, the only thing left is that the public should
> be made aware of *all* of the relevant facts, even those which are
> heavily suppressed now for PC reasons.

Why do they take antibiotics? Just curious.

Also, I haven't heard that antibiotics were bad for immune system, 
has that been proven?

	- Igor.

ichudov@algebra.com wrote:
> Dale Thorn wrote:
> > Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Both homosexual males and IV drug users are well known to take a lot
> > > > > of antobiotics, which lowers the efficacy of the immune system enough
> > > > > to allow most anything to happen, ultimately leading to auto-immune
> > > > > problems.
> > 
> > > Jim and Dale, I agree.
> > > Also shooting one's bloodstream full of fecal matter hardly helps.
> > 
> > My point about the antibiotics is that the male gays take a dis-
> > proportionate amount of them, which compounds their problems.  It
> > suggests to me that the immune system is already seriously debilitated
> > or damaged before AIDS can take hold, rather than the notion that a
> > healthy person can get it from the virii alone.
> > 
> > One could argue that in the cases where the cures (antibiotics) add to
> > a person's problems by further corrupting their immune system, that
> > they should simply change their habits.  Since I don't see that as a
> > reasonable possibility, the only thing left is that the public should
> > be made aware of *all* of the relevant facts, even those which are
> > heavily suppressed now for PC reasons.
> 
> Why do they take antibiotics? Just curious.

To treat various Venerial Diseases whose standard treatments are
antibiotics. 

> Also, I haven't heard that antibiotics were bad for immune system, 
> has that been proven?

What does seem to have credence is that the use of antibiotics breeds
resistant strains of bacteria, which may or may not be contagious.

A book that poses an opposing viewpoint to the current AIDS epidemic
is _The AIDS War_ by John Lauritsen (1993, Asklepios, New York, ISBN
0-943742-08-0).  It is written from a Gay man's perspective dissenting
from the current HIV-AIDS theory.  Another book he wrote is _Poison by
Prescription: The AZT Story_.  Also search on Peter H. Duesberg for
primary sources in various Journals.

Dan Harter
dharter@harter.pg.md.us

Daniel Harter wrote:
> ichudov@algebra.com wrote:
> > Dale Thorn wrote:
> > > Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> > Why do they take antibiotics? Just curious.

> To treat various Venerial Diseases whose standard treatments are
> antibiotics.

> > Also, I haven't heard that antibiotics were bad for immune system,
> > has that been proven?

> What does seem to have credence is that the use of antibiotics breeds
> resistant strains of bacteria, which may or may not be contagious.

> A book that poses an opposing viewpoint to the current AIDS epidemic
> is _The AIDS War_ by John Lauritsen (1993, Asklepios, New York, ISBN
> 0-943742-08-0).  It is written from a Gay man's perspective dissenting
> from the current HIV-AIDS theory.  Another book he wrote is _Poison by
> Prescription: The AZT Story_.  Also search on Peter H. Duesberg for
> primary sources in various Journals.

According to my AIDS database, a possible reason for the "hotly
debated" theories of Duesberg is that because of the suspicion
falling on the govt. and the WHO in regard to creating the HIV
virus, the govt. was happy to have Duesberg and ilk deflecting
a lot of that criticism.  This doesn't make Duesberg wrong by
implication, but there were suggestions of disinformation....