Sandy dumps Igor but allows KOTM

Sandy Sandfort, our Leader, Moderator, Guidance Counselor, Censor,  and
Speaker-to-Gilmour said:

"By the way, contrary to what Dimitri has alleged, I have posted
every message from him in which he was able to restrain himself
with regard to gratuitous insults and/or spam.  In other words,
the set of Dimitri posts that have appeared on the moderated list
is not the null set."

However, KOTM wrote:

"Anything?  My good friend TRRCJ3 reports from San Francisco that the
city is much nicer now that so many homosexuals are 6 feet under.

"Thank God for AIDS."

(end quote from KOTM)

Nice to know Sandy is doing such an efficient job of moderating out the
"flames," such as by kicking Igor's crypto-relevant article on denial of
service attacks to the flame bucket while bending over backwards to appear
to be "fair" to KOTM.

Face it, it's a bad idea. The Cypherpunks community is not the private
sandbox of Gilmour and Sandfort, and we don't need Sandy's "guidance" to
keep us from being straying sheep. The list may currently be hosted on
Gilmour's computer, but having Sandy decide what's right for us to read is
inconsistent with Cypherpunks ideals. 

GenX


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Anonymous wrote:
> Sandy Sandfort, our Leader, Moderator, Guidance Counselor, Censor,  and
> Speaker-to-Gilmour said:
> 
> "By the way, contrary to what Dimitri has alleged, I have posted
> every message from him in which he was able to restrain himself
> with regard to gratuitous insults and/or spam.  In other words,
> the set of Dimitri posts that have appeared on the moderated list
> is not the null set."
> 
> However, KOTM wrote:
> 
> "Anything?  My good friend TRRCJ3 reports from San Francisco that the
> city is much nicer now that so many homosexuals are 6 feet under.
> 
> "Thank God for AIDS."
> 
> (end quote from KOTM)
> 
> Nice to know Sandy is doing such an efficient job of moderating out the
> "flames," such as by kicking Igor's crypto-relevant article on denial of
> service attacks to the flame bucket while bending over backwards to appear
> to be "fair" to KOTM.

My article was not about denial of service technically, but rather
about using computers to set people up.

igor


> Face it, it's a bad idea. The Cypherpunks community is not the private
> sandbox of Gilmour and Sandfort, and we don't need Sandy's "guidance" to
> keep us from being straying sheep. The list may currently be hosted on
> Gilmour's computer, but having Sandy decide what's right for us to read is
> inconsistent with Cypherpunks ideals. 
> 
> GenX
> 
> 
> --
> 



	- Igor.

Anonymous wrote:
> 
> Face it, it's a bad idea. The Cypherpunks community is not the private
> sandbox of Gilmour and Sandfort

  Yes it is. The fact that they are able to tell others when and how
they will be moderated or censored makes it so.

> The list may currently be hosted on
> Gilmour's computer, but having Sandy decide what's right for us to read is
> inconsistent with Cypherpunks ideals.

  So what is your point?  The moderation process has little to do with
rights or ideals. Now that the WWW is making the InterNet a money-making
entity, rights and ideals will play a decreasingly important role in 
decisions regarding its use and the censorship thereof.
  Also, since John is becoming an increasingly important political
entity in the InterNet community, I am sure that it is very important
to him to be able to control the direction of his private list (and
to use the age-old political device of having a 'front man' to take
the 'heat' for his decisions).
  It is not the first time in history that fame and fortune (or even
the smell of it in the wind) has led to 'rights' and 'ideals' needing
a small bit of 'adjustment'.

Toto