NODE 50f3a0d0Privacy Issue (ANI in SF Bay Area)
Ryan Russell/SYBASE <Ryan.Russell@sybase.com>Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:48:55 -0800 (PST)
Here's something cute:
Yesterday PacBell turned on ANI on our trunk groups, for
local area calls. On their own, mind you, without request
from us. If you call anyone here with a display phone,
it displays your number, even if you have caller-id
blocking on or you do a *70 (for those who don't know,
ANI is not caller-id, you can't block your number
from being displayed with ANI.)
It also grabs your phone number if you leave a voice mail,
so even folks without display phones can benefit.
I post this thinking it may be of interest. I actually
disagree that people ought to be able to block
their number. My feeling is that if someone is calling
me, they have no right be anonymous. Of course, I
realize that this is easy to defeat with call forwarding and such..
In fact, if I call you from my work phone..you won't see
my direct dial number...you'll see a number for PacBell's
trunk group.
Now...I just have to figure out how PacBell is charging us..
if it's .01$ per call like regular ANI...at 100,000 calls per day..
Hmm...first fix is free? A new PacBell marketing program?
Our CIO loves the new "feature."
Ryan
NODE 3eeb8eedRe: Privacy Issue (ANI in SF Bay Area)
Toto <toto@sk.sympatico.ca>Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:13:05 -0800 (PST)
Ryan Russell/SYBASE wrote:
>
> Yesterday PacBell turned on ANI on our trunk groups, for
> local area calls. On their own, mind you, without request
> from us. If you call anyone here with a display phone,
> it displays your number, even if you have caller-id
> blocking on or you do a *70 (for those who don't know,
> ANI is not caller-id, you can't block your number
> from being displayed with ANI.)
>
> It also grabs your phone number if you leave a voice mail,
> so even folks without display phones can benefit.
Why do I get the feeling that they will soon be offering a new
feature (for a 'slight surcharge') that will block this feature,
as well?
NODE b02d5086National Security State has different standards for 'them' and 'us'
Brad Dolan <bdolan@USIT.NET>Thu, 16 Jan 1997 13:48:18 -0800 (PST)
I was distracted a bit but I believe I heard on NPR news this morning that
Colorado Guv. Roy Roemer showed up at an airport sans id and had a moment
of difficulty getting on his flight. Roemer solved the problem by showing
the Federal Permission-To-Fly checker a picture of himself in a recent
newspaper.
I thought the ill-defined (or ill-described) rules required presentation
of a _government_ picture I.D. Since when is a newspaper photo a
government picture I.D.?
Some animals are more equal than others.
bd
NODE bd20b944Re: Privacy Issue (ANI in SF Bay Area)
Rich Graves <rcgraves@disposable.com>Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:14:51 -0800 (PST)
Can I (or you) send this to comp.decom.telecom and comp.risks?
If true, this merits wider distribution, but I don't want to cause
you any trouble. Then again, I don't see your email address...
-rich
Ryan, Russell/SYBASE wrote:
>
> Here's something cute:
>
> Yesterday PacBell turned on ANI on our trunk groups, for
> local area calls. On their own, mind you, without request
> from us. If you call anyone here with a display phone,
> it displays your number, even if you have caller-id
> blocking on or you do a *70 (for those who don't know,
> ANI is not caller-id, you can't block your number
> from being displayed with ANI.)
>
> It also grabs your phone number if you leave a voice mail,
> so even folks without display phones can benefit.
>
> I post this thinking it may be of interest. I actually
> disagree that people ought to be able to block
> their number. My feeling is that if someone is calling
> me, they have no right be anonymous. Of course, I
> realize that this is easy to defeat with call forwarding and such..
> In fact, if I call you from my work phone..you won't see
> my direct dial number...you'll see a number for PacBell's
> trunk group.
>
> Now...I just have to figure out how PacBell is charging us..
> if it's .01$ per call like regular ANI...at 100,000 calls per day..
> Hmm...first fix is free? A new PacBell marketing program?
> Our CIO loves the new "feature."
>
> Ryan