NODE dd94adf3Thoughts on moderation
Douglas Barnes <cman@c2.net>Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:33:49 -0800 (PST)
Some thoughts --
1) I've known Sandy for a couple of years, and I trust him to
use good judgement as a moderator. It will be important to
develop guidelines so that the job can be rotated, but it's also
important that the moderator be someone who doesn't have any
major axe to grind. Sandy has his personal likes and dislikes,
but I don't think he'll ever stoop to tossing out opinions that
he disagrees with.
2) I don't think that a post should be tossed out simply because
it contains an ad-hominem attack, but only if it is entirely or
almost entirely an ad-hominem attack. (Timmy May sucks cock, or
John Gilmore dead of AIDS, or found drowned in his hot tub, or
whatever...) I'd hate to see an otherwise substantive post get
pitched out because it referred to Dorothy Denning as the Wicked
Witch of the East or somesuch.
3) I agree that maintaining the list of posts that are tossed out
is important as a check against abuse by the moderator.
4) I think that anyone who confuses the editing of a list with
censorship is a complete fool, and should be sentenced to running
a free counterculture newspaper in which he or she is compelled
to publish whatever fevered ramblings enter the head of the
members of the "community" without editing. [This is the voice
of experience speaking here -- you don't want to do this.]
Freedom of the press belongs to those that own presses. The
Internet makes it a lot easier to own a "press", but it doesn't
make them grow on trees, nor does it give you any special rights
to appropriate someone else's press. (I'm assuming that the peurile
lamers -- oops,ad-hominem alert -- who are arguing so strongly
against editing the list also believe in property rights, yes?)
FWIW,
Doug
NODE f5eecb89Re: Thoughts on moderation
Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:36:54 -0800 (PST)
Douglas Barnes wrote:
> 1) I've known Sandy for a couple of years, and I trust him to
> use good judgement as a moderator. It will be important to
> develop guidelines so that the job can be rotated, but it's also
> important that the moderator be someone who doesn't have any
> major axe to grind. Sandy has his personal likes and dislikes,
> but I don't think he'll ever stoop to tossing out opinions that
> he disagrees with.
Wishful thinking, Doug. Sandy will take an emotional (non-objective)
position on an issue, and argue it beyond any reasonable limit. I wish
I had all his replies to things I've said - you'd see what I mean.
Not to promote anyone who I might not be a friend of, but, there are
people on this list who are "well respected" who are light-years ahead
of Sandy in areas that are important for a list moderator.
Maybe Gilmore should have publicly announced for a moderator, and then
let the subscribers pick....