Re: IBM Key Recovery Propaganda on United Airlines

>   To me, Key Recovery cryptography is like using a condom with a
> hole in it. No thanks.
Actually, on microscopical level *all* condoms have holes in them; 
the holes are just small enough for you not to worry bout it. The same 
applies to (good!) Key Recovery cryptography: there are holes but not 
big enough for you to worry about!
> 
> Toto
> 
Eric


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In <199701090741.IAA28828@mail.rijnhaave.nl>, on 01/09/97 at 05:03 AM,
   "Eric Verheul" <everheul@mail.rijnhaave.nl> said:


>>   To me, Key Recovery cryptography is like using a condom with a
>> hole in it. No thanks.

>Actually, on microscopical level *all* condoms have holes in them; 
>the holes are just small enough for you not to worry bout it. The same 
>applies to (good!) Key Recovery cryptography: there are holes but not 
>big enough for you to worry about!

You are joking right??

Well I guess I will not need to worry about them since I will never run any GAK software
reguardless how may laws the jackboots in DC pass.

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"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com> writes:

> Well I guess I will not need to worry about them since I will never run any G
> reguardless how may laws the jackboots in DC pass.

That's from the same guy who endorses censorship on this mailing list...

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On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com> writes:
> 
> > Well I guess I will not need to worry about them since I will never run any G
> > reguardless how may laws the jackboots in DC pass.
> 
> That's from the same guy who endorses censorship on this mailing list...

Wait a second, isn't that what you were just calling for in my case?

To wit: "I suggest zero tolerance of Black Unicorn unless and until
someone reveals his real name."

For the guy who has been screaming his head off about censorship to the 
point of nausea you were sure quick to turn your coat in my case.  That
more than anything else you have ever said puts the cap on your 
credibility as far as I'm concerned.

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Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li> writes:

> On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
>
> > "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com> writes:
> >
> > > Well I guess I will not need to worry about them since I will never run a
> > > reguardless how may laws the jackboots in DC pass.
> >
> > That's from the same guy who endorses censorship on this mailing list...
>
> Wait a second, isn't that what you were just calling for in my case?
>
> To wit: "I suggest zero tolerance of Black Unicorn unless and until
> someone reveals his real name."

Not quite.

          No censorship
          is better than
          consistent censorship
          is which is better than
          arbitrary censorship.

*IF* this list is to be moderated, then Unicorn and Plucky Green have
to banned from it - unless their real names are revealed.

> For the guy who has been screaming his head off about censorship to the
> point of nausea you were sure quick to turn your coat in my case.  That
> more than anything else you have ever said puts the cap on your
> credibility as far as I'm concerned.

OK, let's guess one letter at a time. Does your last name start with 'M'?

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> *IF* this list is to be moderated, then Unicorn and Plucky Green have
> to banned from it - unless their real names are revealed.
> 
> OK, let's guess one letter at a time. Does your last name start with 'M'?

  God, I love good cryptoanalysis.

  I ran my 'JewFinder' program on their posts and found out that Plucky
Green's keystrokes have pork residue on them, while Black Unicorn's
do not.

  'HomoPhobeII' reported that both are wearing pants with sperm stains
of other people on them, but Black Unicorn bought his pants at the
Sally Ann Thrift Store, so it classifies him only as a 'possible'
Not-Macho-Like-Me.

   'ColorBooKKK' reported that 'Black' Unicorn's lack of Ebonics in
his postings means he probably just a Nigger-Lover, and not actually 
eligible for a special education grant.  It suggests that Plucky
Green is either Irish, or needs to quit 'plucking' it, so that it
won't turn green.  

  A check of plaidworks.com reveals that both Black Unicorn and
Plucky Green are both subscribed to all 1,000 of their sports lists,
as of noon today.
 (However, since I found out that myself and all the CypherPunks
were subscribed at the same time, this may not have much meaning).

  My own careful study of the printouts of their postings reveals
that both printouts are in black ink.
  I will give this glaringly obvious similarity close scrutiny,
and report back with my conclusions.

Toto

> To wit: "I suggest zero tolerance of Black Unicorn unless and until
> someone reveals his real name."

  His (or her) name is Black Unicorn.
  Do you have a reading problem?

Eric Verheul wrote:
> > To me, Key Recovery cryptography is like using a condom with a
> > hole in it. No thanks.

> Actually, on microscopical level *all* condoms have holes in them;
> the holes are just small enough for you not to worry bout it. The same
> applies to (good!) Key Recovery cryptography: there are holes but not
> big enough for you to worry about!

Not worry?  Really?  What about those pesky little virii that are
*much* smaller than the holes in the condoms?