Re: POST: The Frightening Dangers of Moderation

Ok...this is the fourth junk e-mail I've received that I don't want.  Your
account is in jeapordy, and my advice is for you to just stop sending me
this junk.  Take me off your e-mail list, NOW.  
If this e-mail from me, being mad at you, is what makes you happy, and is
how you have fun, then you just have a personal problem and I feel sorry
for you.  
Do what you can to heal yourself...meanwhile, don't send me anymore...your
isp provider is next on my e-mail list.

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> From: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
> To: freedom-knights@jetcafe.org; cypherpunks@toad.com
> Cc: Against Moderation <antimod@nym.alias.net>; InterNet Freedom Council
<ifc@pgh.org>
> Subject: Re: POST: The Frightening Dangers of Moderation
> Date: Saturday, February 08, 1997 10:54 AM
> 
> ??? wrote:
> 
> [some text deleted]
> 
> > > Before I explain what has happened, I want to make one thing
> > > absolutely clear.  Though I've thought the moderation of cypherpunks
> > > was a terrible idea from the start and am even more convinced of it
> > > now, I don't assign any blame to Sandy.  I believe he offered to
> > > moderate the list with the best of intentions, and I sincerely
> > > appreciate his efforts to try to revive what was once a fantastic
> > > mailing list, even if in my opinion those efforts have backfired.
> 
> This is the fatal mistake, assuming it's really a mistake.
> I've worked under several corporations where, at a certain
> point in time, things just "went crazy", and the owners/
> managers were scrambling desperately to plug as many holes
> in the dike as they possibly could, to no avail.
> 
> People don't understand why things just "go crazy" at a particular
> point, and so they accept the coincidence theory ruse, lacking any
> other evidence.  Use your head, folks.  This is not a list made up
> of sewing-circle nannies, these are security people, NSA, CIA, and
> all the ugly things you shut out of your conversations because you
> don't want to admit the truth.  "Paranoia is a way of knowing".
> 
> Today I saw an old picture of Albert Einstein in full Indian regalia,
> smoking a peace pipe with some Hopi people.  I thought of the Capone
> mob and the "kiss of death", or Judas and Jesus, you get the picture.
> 
> So Einstein puts his name and reputation and personal seal of approval
> on the creation of the Doomsday Device, the atom bomb, knowing full
> well that it will be used to murder millions of people. What does he
> do for an encore?  Plants the "kiss of death" on the Hopis, whose
> environment is co-opted by the mad bombers and their Nazi-infested
> thug "scientist" cohorts, for the experimentation and storage of
> nuclear and other hazardous materials.  You know, Nevada, Arizona,
> New Mexico, all those "useless, desert lands" occupied by the
> Indians.
>

Jerry Basham wrote:

> Ok...this is the fourth junk e-mail I've received that I don't want.  Your
> account is in jeapordy, and my advice is for you to just stop sending me
> this junk.  Take me off your e-mail list, NOW.
> If this e-mail from me, being mad at you, is what makes you happy, and is
> how you have fun, then you just have a personal problem and I feel sorry
> for you.
> Do what you can to heal yourself...meanwhile, don't send me anymore...your
> isp provider is next on my e-mail list.

Jerry, my provider is GTE, and if you think you can make a dent in
them, go ahead and butt your head against the wall.  No sweat offa
my ass.

OTOH, if you stop bitching and groaning long enough to figure out
who is doing the remailing etc., then you'll be miles ahead.  I'm
not optimistic.