Re: Moderation, Tim, Sandy, me, etc. * Strong crypto == DES?!

aaron@herringn.com wrote:
> John Gilmore wrote:
> >I'm glad we're talking about some of the real issues here.
> >Tim, the Cypherpunks have chosen to follow Sandy's lead for this
> >month.  I'll admit I made it easy for them, but the results are
> >conclusive.  There are 1311 addresses in the cypherpunks list today;
> >42 in the unedited list; and 19 in the flames list.  Forty people
> >cared enough to read every posting; the other thousand either wanted
> >to try the experiment -- or didn't care enough to send an email
> >message.  Which, as we all know, is a very low threshold.

Re: the below.  Easily the best and most intelligent suggestion so
far.  Why couldn't Sandy and John with all their experience think
of this?

> If I might make a suggestion:
> Some people want moderation. That's fine, I've never been very big on
> letting other people choose what I read, but some people want it.
> For those who want it, let someone moderate the list for as long as
> they care to do it. Approved messages get a "X-sandy-approved"
> header. The responsibility for setting up a filter to toss everything
> that doesn't have the header is the responsibility of the end user.
> Toad will need to filter incoming posts to make sure they don't come
> "pre-approved", but that's the only hole I can think of.
> Everyone gets all of the Cypherpunks list. Those who want moderation
> filter the unapproved posts, those who want all of it get all of it.
> Hopefully, this will make (almost) everyone happy.

>Re: the below.  Easily the best and most intelligent suggestion so
   >far.  Why couldn't Sandy and John with all their experience think
   >of this?

Actually, I've been sitting on the sidelines, somewhat bemused, that
this far into online living the cypherpunks have to rehash this
themselves. I've seen this entire exchange at least three times in
the last two years. None of the lists survived. Good luck..

   >> If I might make a suggestion:
   >> Some people want moderation. That's fine, I've never been very big on
   >> letting other people choose what I read, but some people want it.
   >> For those who want it, let someone moderate the list for as long as
   >> they care to do it. Approved messages get a "X-sandy-approved"
   >> header. The responsibility for setting up a filter to toss everything
   >> that doesn't have the header is the responsibility of the end user.
   >> Toad will need to filter incoming posts to make sure they don't come
   >> "pre-approved", but that's the only hole I can think of.
   >> Everyone gets all of the Cypherpunks list. Those who want moderation
   >> filter the unapproved posts, those who want all of it get all of it.
   >> Hopefully, this will make (almost) everyone happy.

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