Re: Moderation experiment almost over; "put up or shut up"

Ok. I'll "put up". 

If the cypherpunks will have me, -I'll- run the cypherpunks
list. Those that know me know that I will *not* censor, moderate, or
otherwise alter the content (other than the stuff majordomo does with
"resend") of any messages to the list.
------
Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org 
Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet

    Advice is priceless; when it becomes interference it is preposterous.

Dave Hayes wrote:
> 
> Ok. I'll "put up". 
> 
> If the cypherpunks will have me, -I'll- run the cypherpunks
> list. Those that know me know that I will *not* censor, moderate, or
> otherwise alter the content (other than the stuff majordomo does with
> "resend") of any messages to the list.

I think that it is a great idea. If you want to contribute to the 
effort to keep the list, this is great. You could join the network of
other cypherpunks mailing lists. 

There is a small list for discussing these networking issues,
cypherpunks-hosts@algebra.com. It is not for crypto-discussions per 
se, but rather for discussing how we proceed with these lists.

You can subscribe to it through majordomo@algebra.com.

	- Igor.

Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
> Dave Hayes wrote:
> > Ok. I'll "put up".
> > If the cypherpunks will have me, -I'll- run the cypherpunks
> > list. Those that know me know that I will *not* censor, moderate, or
> > otherwise alter the content (other than the stuff majordomo does with
> > "resend") of any messages to the list.

> I think that it is a great idea. If you want to contribute to the
> effort to keep the list, this is great. You could join the network of
> other cypherpunks mailing lists.
> There is a small list for discussing these networking issues,
> cypherpunks-hosts@algebra.com. It is not for crypto-discussions per
> se, but rather for discussing how we proceed with these lists.

If I understood the last several hundred messages correctly, they have
tried to make the point that the cypherpunks mailing list (unedited)
was more ideal than a newsgroup.  If this is what Dave is offering,
I'm surprised if more people don't jump on it.  Then again, they
took their good ol' time jumping onto cypherpunks-unedited.

Dale Thorn wrote:
> Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
> > Dave Hayes wrote:
> > > Ok. I'll "put up".
> > > If the cypherpunks will have me, -I'll- run the cypherpunks
> > > list. Those that know me know that I will *not* censor, moderate, or
> > > otherwise alter the content (other than the stuff majordomo does with
> > > "resend") of any messages to the list.
> 
> > I think that it is a great idea. If you want to contribute to the
> > effort to keep the list, this is great. You could join the network of
> > other cypherpunks mailing lists.
> > There is a small list for discussing these networking issues,
> > cypherpunks-hosts@algebra.com. It is not for crypto-discussions per
> > se, but rather for discussing how we proceed with these lists.
> 
> If I understood the last several hundred messages correctly, they have
> tried to make the point that the cypherpunks mailing list (unedited)
> was more ideal than a newsgroup.  If this is what Dave is offering,
> I'm surprised if more people don't jump on it.  Then again, they
> took their good ol' time jumping onto cypherpunks-unedited.

I think that the ideas of a distributed list and the idea of 
alt.cypherpunks are both good and these two mediums complement 
each other.

	- Igor.

Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
> Dale Thorn wrote:
> > Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
> > > Dave Hayes wrote:
> > > > Ok. I'll "put up".
> > If I understood the last several hundred messages correctly, they have
> > tried to make the point that the cypherpunks mailing list (unedited)
> > was more ideal than a newsgroup.  If this is what Dave is offering,
> > I'm surprised if more people don't jump on it.  Then again, they
> > took their good ol' time jumping onto cypherpunks-unedited.
> 
> I think that the ideas of a distributed list and the idea of
> alt.cypherpunks are both good and these two mediums complement
> each other.

I can certainly accept this, but it would be nice if someone summarizes
these feeds every now and then, as time to check them all out is very
limited.

Dale Thorn wrote:
> 
> Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
> > Dale Thorn wrote:
> > > Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
> > > > Dave Hayes wrote:
> > > > > Ok. I'll "put up".
> > > If I understood the last several hundred messages correctly, they have
> > > tried to make the point that the cypherpunks mailing list (unedited)
> > > was more ideal than a newsgroup.  If this is what Dave is offering,
> > > I'm surprised if more people don't jump on it.  Then again, they
> > > took their good ol' time jumping onto cypherpunks-unedited.
> > 
> > I think that the ideas of a distributed list and the idea of
> > alt.cypherpunks are both good and these two mediums complement
> > each other.
> 
> I can certainly accept this, but it would be nice if someone summarizes
> these feeds every now and then, as time to check them all out is very
> limited.
> 

I agree entirely.

	- Igor.

Now finally we can have a heterosexual cypherpunks list.

On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Dave Hayes wrote:

> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:29:41 -0800
> From: Dave Hayes <dave@kachina.jetcafe.org>
> Reply-To: freedom-knights@jetcafe.org
> To: freedom-knights@jetcafe.org, cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: Moderation experiment almost over; "put up or shut up" 
> 
> Ok. I'll "put up". 
> 
> If the cypherpunks will have me, -I'll- run the cypherpunks
> list. Those that know me know that I will *not* censor, moderate, or
> otherwise alter the content (other than the stuff majordomo does with
> "resend") of any messages to the list.
> ------
> Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org 
> Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet
> 
>     Advice is priceless; when it becomes interference it is preposterous.
> 

How about that we require everybody to state their sex and sexual
orientation in the future, so we have no future problems.

I am a "Male Heterosexual" -- what about the rest of you?
If you refuse to answer, you are presumed to be a gay boy who
is hiding it.

Dave Hayes wrote:
> Ok. I'll "put up".
> If the cypherpunks will have me, -I'll- run the cypherpunks
> list. Those that know me know that I will *not* censor, moderate, or
> otherwise alter the content (other than the stuff majordomo does with
> "resend") of any messages to the list.

You have my vote.  And any help I can provide, within my limits.