NODE b56db382Re: David Friedman and assassination politics
jimbell@pacifier.com (Jim Bell)Sun, 20 Apr 1997 13:15:59 -0700 (PDT)
At 00:36 4/20/97 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>These ideas is of course not new to cypherpunks. We've been talking about
>them for years. But these ideas are slowly infiltrating the DC body
>politic. Assassination politics, here we come -- right, Jim? Want to give
>a speech at Cato?
I'd be proud to do it. Even after everything that's happened so far.
Strike that; ESPECIALLY after everything that's happened so far!
The way I see it, they're going to have to deal with this issue eventually,
and it's possible that it won't be obvious to them that libertarianism and
AP mix. Indeed, I think they MUST mix; we have no choice in the matter.
Jim Bell
jimbell@pacifier.com
NODE 4871afd8Re: David Friedman and assassination politics
Toto <toto@sk.sympatico.ca>Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:47:44 -0700 (PDT)
At 2:13 PM -0700 4/20/97, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>I suggest that one can
>believe in minimal government and other libertarian mainstays without
>seeing a need to kill off those whom we dislike, be they IRS agents or
>surly supermarket clerks.
You can, but it takes most of the fun out of it.
--
Toto
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NODE c84167daRe: David Friedman and assassination politics
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
Jim,
For the record: I doubt everyone agrees with your "libertarianism is
intertwined with assassination politics" line... I suggest that one can
believe in minimal government and other libertarian mainstays without
seeing a need to kill off those whom we dislike, be they IRS agents or
surly supermarket clerks.
-Declan
On Sun, 20 Apr 1997, Jim Bell wrote:
> At 00:36 4/20/97 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>
> >These ideas is of course not new to cypherpunks. We've been talking about
> >them for years. But these ideas are slowly infiltrating the DC body
> >politic. Assassination politics, here we come -- right, Jim? Want to give
> >a speech at Cato?
>
> I'd be proud to do it. Even after everything that's happened so far.
>
> Strike that; ESPECIALLY after everything that's happened so far!
>
> The way I see it, they're going to have to deal with this issue eventually,
> and it's possible that it won't be obvious to them that libertarianism and
> AP mix. Indeed, I think they MUST mix; we have no choice in the matter.
NODE a82a6421Re: David Friedman and assassination politics
Bill Frantz <frantz@netcom.com>Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:38:44 -0700 (PDT)
At 2:13 PM -0700 4/20/97, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>For the record: I doubt everyone agrees with your "libertarianism is
>intertwined with assassination politics" line... I suggest that one can
>believe in minimal government and other libertarian mainstays without
>seeing a need to kill off those whom we dislike, be they IRS agents or
>surly supermarket clerks.
I thought I'd pass on this quote:
"Four more jeeks run up to join them. Y.T. counts two more revolvers and a
pump shotgun. Any more of these guys and they'll be able to form a
government."
- Snow Crash p84, Neal Stephenson
I have always thought that what the newspapers call "anarchy" is not the
absence of government, but rather the presence of too many competing
governments.
I prefer nonviolent solutions myself.
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