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To whom it may concern:





	Thank you for answering my mail, it was very useful for me, but at the

end you asked me why do I think legislation would be needed?



	I have several opinions:



	In one part I think that it is not necessary to legislate, because as

you said you have to protect your privacy from the gobernent, I´m agree

of that, but I have other situations:



	I´m going to give you some examples:



	1) I heard about several cases about individuals who use the Internet

to attract children who are then raped and murdered, kidnapped and sold

on the black market, many of these pediophiles work out in open in

complete anonimaty, due to the structure of the Internet and many

service providers.



	2) And what about the terroists who use the Internet to comunicate with

each other, gather information and funding establish methods,

investigate methods of terrorism (how to make a bomb in your house using

abono and household chemicals.  This is an area that should be strongly

controlled, but the question is how do you do it without restricting the

rights of the average citizen?

In <3342CF22.6181@mexred.net.mx>, on 04/02/97 at 03:26 PM,
   nadeshda@mexred.net.mx (nadeshda vargas stepanenko) said:







>	To whom it may concern:

>	Thank you for answering my mail, it was very useful for me, but at the
>end you asked me why do I think legislation would be needed?

>	I have several opinions:

>	In one part I think that it is not necessary to legislate, because as
>you said you have to protect your privacy from the gobernent, I m agree
>of that, but I have other situations:

>	I m going to give you some examples:

Well these are some of the straw-men that get pulled out whenever the
Government wishes to clamp down on the rights & freedoms of it's citizens.
Whenever you here the buzz-phrases: "save the children" this means "take
away more of your rights" & "terrorist" means "anyone opposed to the
policies of the current administration". -- Translations form the "George
Orwell NewSpeak Dictionary published 1984."

>	1) I heard about several cases about individuals who use the Internet
>to attract children who are then raped and murdered, kidnapped and sold
>on the black market, many of these pediophiles work out in open in
>complete anonimaty, due to the structure of the Internet and many
>service providers.

The overwhelming cases of child abuse including pediophilia are not done by
strangers but by members of the childs family or those close to the family;
freinds, daycare workers, neighbors, cleargy, ...ect. Those with close
contact to the child on a regular basis. Any regulation on the Internet
would do nothing to prevent this. It would be just as easy to lure a child
by using the Postal system but you don't see anyone demanding that all
letters be written on postcards to they can be read.

>	2) And what about the terroists who use the Internet to comunicate with
>each other, gather information and funding establish methods,
>investigate methods of terrorism (how to make a bomb in your house using
>abono and household chemicals.  This is an area that should be strongly
>controlled, but the question is how do you do it without restricting the
>rights of the average citizen?

I can see no way of regulating such information. The basic information
required to make all kinds of nasty bombs & chemicals are taught in High
School chemistry classes. I guess we could ban all science and go back to
living in caves but that doen't see very practical now does it?

 " Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin
Franklin.
 " When a government spends most of it's time and energy protecting itself
from it's own people it is doomed to fail" -- William H. Geiger III

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William H. Geiger III wrote:
> 
> >       I m going to give you some examples:
> 
> Well these are some of the straw-men that get pulled out whenever the
> Government wishes to clamp down on the rights & freedoms of it's citizens.
> Whenever you here the buzz-phrases: "save the children" this means "take
> away more of your rights" & "terrorist" means "anyone opposed to the
> policies of the current administration". -- Translations form the "George
> Orwell NewSpeak Dictionary published 1984."
> 
> >       1) I heard about several cases about individuals who use the Internet
> >to attract children who are then raped and murdered, kidnapped and sold
> >on the black market, many of these pediophiles work out in open in
> >complete anonimaty, due to the structure of the Internet and many
> >service providers.

  And I heard about the Jews killing Jesus, using the Torah
as their authority.
  Many of these Jews work out in the open, under authority of the
Torah, due to the structure of their religion and many Jewish
Rabbi's.

  Perhaps we need to pass some legislation to ensure that 
Jesus will be safe from Jews when he comes back.
  Hitler was misunderstood. He was merely protecting the citizens
from Jews. The fact that Hitler's methods were so successful suggests
that these methods can be effectively used agains drug dealers and
pornographers.
  Anyone disguising their activities by using encryption probably
have Jews, drug dealers and pornographers hidden in their basement.

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