RFC 2144 on CAST-128 Encryption Algorithms (fwd)

plz do not use bcc

igor

----- Forwarded message from Adam Shostack -----

>From cpunks@manifold.algebra.com  Thu May 22 13:12:32 1997
From: Adam Shostack <adam@homeport.org>
Message-Id: <199705221736.NAA17266@homeport.org>
Subject: RFC 2144 on CAST-128 Encryption Algorithms (fwd)
To: coderpunks@toad.com (The Coderpunks list)
Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 13:36:16 -0400 (EDT)
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I hadn't seen this mentioned.  This is to coderpunks, bcc'd to
cypherpunks & cryptography.

Adam


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        RFC 2144:

        Title:      The CAST-128 Encryption Algorithm
        Author:     C. Adams
        Date:       May 1997
        Mailbox:    cadams@entrust.com
        Pages:      15
        Characters: 37532
        Updates/Obsoletes: None

        URL:        ftp://ds.internic.net/rfc/rfc2144.txt


There is a need in the Internet community for an unencumbered 
encryption algorithm with a range of key sizes that can provide 
security for a variety of cryptographic applications and protocols.  
This document describes an existing algorithm that can be used to 
satisfy this requirement.

This memo provides information for the Internet community.  This memo
does not specify an Internet standard of any kind.  Distribution of
this memo is unlimited.



----- End of forwarded message from Adam Shostack -----

Igor Chudov <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
>
> plz do not use bcc

Why not?  It is quite convenient for coping with the non-cross posting
policy of other groups.

Also what is it with the <cpunks@manifold.algebra.com> forwards, why
are these coming to the list forwarded from that address?  Are they
things which failed your procmail filter manually forwarded
afterwards?

Adam

Adam,

the answer is that it happens because of my spam filter for cypherpunks.

you would not believe how much spam it catches... and bogus mailing
lists that cypherpunks were sub-scri-bed to...

the theory behind it is that if something was not sent to cypherpunks
explicitly, it most likely does not belong there.

naturally, I DO forward all stuff that belongs there to the list.

igor

Adam Back wrote:
> 
> 
> Igor Chudov <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
> >
> > plz do not use bcc
> 
> Why not?  It is quite convenient for coping with the non-cross posting
> policy of other groups.
> 
> Also what is it with the <cpunks@manifold.algebra.com> forwards, why
> are these coming to the list forwarded from that address?  Are they
> things which failed your procmail filter manually forwarded
> afterwards?
> 
> Adam
> 



	- Igor.

Igor Chudov <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
> Adam Back wrote:
> > Igor Chudov <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
> > >
> > > plz do not use bcc
> > 
> > Why not?  It is quite convenient for coping with the non-cross posting
> > policy of other groups.
> > 
> > Also what is it with the <cpunks@manifold.algebra.com> forwards, why
> > are these coming to the list forwarded from that address?  Are they
> > things which failed your procmail filter manually forwarded
> > afterwards?
>
> the answer is that it happens because of my spam filter for cypherpunks.
> 
> you would not believe how much spam it catches... and bogus mailing
> lists that cypherpunks were sub-scri-bed to...
> 
> the theory behind it is that if something was not sent to cypherpunks
> explicitly, it most likely does not belong there.
> 
> naturally, I DO forward all stuff that belongs there to the list.

I see.

Any chance you could fix the forwards up so they look like normal
posts?  Maybe stuff them into a file which procmail picks up without
doing the spam check?

I'm not sure why someone would want to do a Bcc
cypherpunks@algebra.com and Cc coderpunks@toad.com because (if I have
this right) it'll be cypherpunks which sees the Cc coderpunks, and
people on cypherpunks will auto-repy to coderpunks, which is the
opposite of what people on coderpunks want.  What people should do is
Bcc coderpunks (or cryptography) for this purpose.

Adam
-- 
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Adam Back wrote:
> Igor Chudov <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
> > Adam Back wrote:
> > > Igor Chudov <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
> > > >
> > > > plz do not use bcc
> > > 
> > > Why not?  It is quite convenient for coping with the non-cross posting
> > > policy of other groups.
> > > 
> > > Also what is it with the <cpunks@manifold.algebra.com> forwards, why
> > > are these coming to the list forwarded from that address?  Are they
> > > things which failed your procmail filter manually forwarded
> > > afterwards?
> >
> > the answer is that it happens because of my spam filter for cypherpunks.
> > 
> > you would not believe how much spam it catches... and bogus mailing
> > lists that cypherpunks were sub-scri-bed to...
> > 
> > the theory behind it is that if something was not sent to cypherpunks
> > explicitly, it most likely does not belong there.
> > 
> > naturally, I DO forward all stuff that belongs there to the list.
> 
> I see.
> 
> Any chance you could fix the forwards up so they look like normal
> posts?  Maybe stuff them into a file which procmail picks up without
> doing the spam check?

A good point. I will write a shell script for that when I get time.

> I'm not sure why someone would want to do a Bcc
> cypherpunks@algebra.com and Cc coderpunks@toad.com because (if I have
> this right) it'll be cypherpunks which sees the Cc coderpunks, and
> people on cypherpunks will auto-repy to coderpunks, which is the
> opposite of what people on coderpunks want.  What people should do is
> Bcc coderpunks (or cryptography) for this purpose.

I would agree with this.

	- Igor.