PGP 5.0 beta is out at PGP.com

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The pgp 5.0 beta is out. It is for Win95/NT 4.0 only.  PGPKeys.exe pukes its 
guts out when run.  (At least on my machine.)

It looks like they have hired a new graphics artist.  The splash page looks 
interesting.  Nice if the rest would run...

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At 10:39 AM -0800 5/17/97, Alan Olsen wrote:
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>The pgp 5.0 beta is out. It is for Win95/NT 4.0 only.  PGPKeys.exe pukes its
>guts out when run.  (At least on my machine.)
>
>It looks like they have hired a new graphics artist.  The splash page looks
>interesting.  Nice if the rest would run...

More than that, did they decide to release the source code?

Last I heard, the answer was "of course not!!!!"

Why it is important that source code be released is left as an exercise.

If it isn't released....


--Tim May

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At 11:39 AM 5/17/97 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote:

>The pgp 5.0 beta is out. It is for Win95/NT 4.0 only.  PGPKeys.exe pukes its 
>guts out when run.  (At least on my machine.)
>
>It looks like they have hired a new graphics artist.  The splash page looks 
>interesting.  Nice if the rest would run...

It works fine on two of my (WIN95) machines (including one aging 486) that 
have pretty flaky general installations.  No problems.

It automatically signs if you want and is supposed to query keyservers 
automatically if you want but I haven't got that to work.  

Pretty display of the keys in your public file.

DCF


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Well, now that I've seen some good and bad reviews regarding the beta
version, I'm still curious to hear from someone who uses PGPMail ver. 4.5
with Eudora Pro.  From what I've read, it seems the new beta version has
nothing new to add - except some quirky bugs and the source code that's
supposed to be available at some time in the future.

Has anyone compared the above?

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I'm very happy with the PGP 5.0 beta after less than an hour of testing.

The new PGP 5.0 seems to work well.  I'm finding a few bugs, and I had a 
configuration problem or two.  But this is much better than using the DOS 
version from Windows.  And much nicer than using Private Idaho.

For crypto to have widespread acceptance, crypto must work seamlessly on 
common platforms such as Windows.  While any Linux administrator can use PGP 
without much problem, the average Windows based knowledge worker has had 
problems with this.  PGP seamlessly integrates with Eudora and provides 
features required for electronic commerce.

I have used the keyserver lookup feature (from PGPkeys) and found it worked 
well.  PGP options have been added both to the Eudora menu and the toolbar.  
While I was not able to download PGP on Friday or Monday (day), customer 
support worked with me, and the technical people installed server updates to 
the US verification process on Friday and Monday afternoon, allowing me to 
finally download the 5MB file tonight.

PGP 5.0 takes advantage of the 32-bit APIs and uses the Win95 interface.  My 
existing 2.6 keyring was imported with no problem, and I have been able to use 
PGP 2.6 to verify signatures created with 5.0.  Best I can tell, the new 
product is backwards compatible with older versions.  I've also gotten email 
from a PGP person who has assured that source code will be available later.

The new product, when combined with Eudora seamlessly integrates

 * Email
 * Spell checking
 * Digital Signatures
 * Certification Authority (CA)
 * Web of trust
 * Encryption
 * Availability from a commercial source

This seamless integration is what is required to allow for successful 
implementation of Digital Signature initiatives most states have passed or are 
considering.

Overall, I'm happy.  I'd recommend that people obtain the beta and test it 
out.  I don't know what it will be selling for, but I'm sure it will be worth 
the price.

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>Well, now that I've seen some good and bad reviews regarding the beta
>version, I'm still curious to hear from someone who uses PGPMail ver. 4.5
>with Eudora Pro.  From what I've read, it seems the new beta version has
>nothing new to add - except some quirky bugs and the source code that's
>supposed to be available at some time in the future.
>
>Has anyone compared the above?

I've been using 4.5 since it was in Beta and I paid the $29.95 to upgrade to 
it when they started charging (they have you cut and paste your public key 
into the form to prove you are upgrading from a free version of PGP).

I downloaded 5.0 a day or two ago and have been using it.  It is possible to 
use both on the same machine although you have to watch your key location.

I Use Windows 95.  

Installation of PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 went OK.  Unless you have the 
latest Beta of Eudora (3.0.2 B4) it installs the files necessary to upgrade 
your version of Eudora.  Unfortunately, 3.0.2 B4 expires in June so you'll  
have to continue upgrading.   My only problem was that when I had the program 
move and rename my key rings, I forgot which key file I was pointing to and 
made my secret ring my public ring for a few minutes until I reinstalled.  The 


program puts its menu into the "tray".  Its menu is shorter than the PGP Mail 
4.5 menu because the key handling is done from the PGPkeys program.  It 
displays a graphic key list and you can point and click and drag and drop to 
perform most key management tasks.

The new features are 1) automatic lookup of keys from the keyserver of your 
choice (defaults to PGP Incs keyserver).  2) automatic signing (or even 
encryption) of outgoing mail.  You click <Queue> in Eudora and it prompts you 
for your passphrase.  3) Use of ElGamal (DSS/Diffie-Hellman) instead of RSA 
for your key if you like.  4) Use of PGP/Mime for outgoing messages if you 
like.  5) it will cache you private key in memory for a user configurable 
length of time (default is 120 seconds) so that you can easily encrypt 
multiple messages.

It has worked fine so far.  Digital signing and encryption seem faster than 
with 4.5.

DCF

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