NODE efd46009Money orders, debit cards, ...
daw@cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)Sun, 11 May 1997 17:26:17 +0800
Some court transcripts from the McVeigh case contain interesting
information about real-life anonymous systems. See
http://www.cnn.com/US/9703/okc.trial/transcripts/may/050697.eve.html
Did you know that money orders are not so anonymous as you might think?
On the order itself are digits identifying the post office where the
order was purchased, as well as the date of purchase. Also, a private
company testified on their money order service, and it comes out that
they keep a computerized record of every money order purchase in a
central database. Eek.
And read about a real-life instance of traffic analysis of phone calls
based on timing correlations. This one really happened, folks (though
it was by mistake). Also, read about how a company offering prepaid
debit cards searched through billions of records to find all phone calls
to or from a certain number, etc. Read about how they entered a disk
containing information on 100,000--200,000 phone calls (!) into evidence.
(Note: contents of calls are protected by law, but traffic analysis
specifically is allowed, far as I can tell.)
And you value your privacy? Too bad!
NODE 8159d194Re: Money orders, debit cards, ...
Greg Broiles <gbroiles@netbox.com>Sun, 11 May 1997 18:13:48 +0800
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At 02:12 AM 5/11/97 -0700, David Wagner wrote:
>(Note: contents of calls are protected by law, but traffic analysis
>specifically is allowed, far as I can tell.)
Correct. There is no (federal) constitutionally protected privacy interest in
traffic-analysis data about phone calls, because (so the argument goes) that
data is voluntarily disclosed to a third party (the phone company).
An argument might be available (in state court) based upon a state's
constitutional right to privacy/right to be free from unreasonable searches &
seizures, if there are any states left whose state constitutions are more
protective than the federal constitution. California and Oregon both used to
be more protective, but the wise and far-seeing voters in both states changed
that via the initiative process. Can't even blame that on the legislators. :(
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