Re: Privacy news: Oakland Cameras, Levi employee files, FileGate

At 06:35 PM 4/30/97 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
>It's been a busy day for privacy issues in the Oakland Trib.
>
>Surveillance Cameras in Oakland
>-------------------------------
>Bay Alarm is trying to sell the City Council a $500K-$1.5M closed-circuit
>TV system for watching people in public places.  The three picknickers
>didn't litter, but the camera mounted on the public library building could
>zoom in enough to that the council could tell a ham sandwich from roast beef,
>and whether the two joggers were wearing Nikes or Reeboks.
>"Anybody who is a law-abiding citizen is not going to be concerned about
>this..
>"When I'm out in a public place.... I don't have an expectation of privacy"
>said Councilcritter Nate Miley (East Oakland/Elmhurst), who wants a test run
>in his district, where residents have bars on their windows and are afraid
>to go out at night.  Police Chief Joseph Samuels likes it too.
>"This is technology spying on our citizens from camera on light poles"
>said John Crew of the ACLU police practices project, speaking against it.
>Bay Alarm said that some British cities have dealt with privacy fears by
>setting up monitoring centers away from city and police offices,
>where tapes are kept in case a crime occurs -- crime victims can call up
>the police and ask them to play back tapes, said Mark Demier of Bay Alarm.
>The camera systems are also capable of taking pictures in the dark.
>

Brief radio piece on the red-light cameras in S.F. --- red-light running
appears
to be down at the 4 intersections where cameras are installed; some
well-placed official was
quoted as saying "The cameras are definitely having an effect on people's
behavior." Yes, a
Good Thing.  They are continuing to move forward with plans to install more
cameras.

This is fine for red-light-running.  I'm just worried about the day when
the cameras
have an effect on people's behavior with respect to what they say, whom
they associate with, 
the clothes they wear, the thoughts they think...

How do you hack a camera?

At 08:46 AM 5/1/97 -0700, you wrote:
>This is fine for red-light-running.  I'm just worried about the day when
>the cameras have an effect on people's behavior with respect to 
>what they say, whom they associate with, 
>the clothes they wear, the thoughts they think...
>
>How do you hack a camera?

The traditional solution, which happened to a number of early
photo-radar cameras, involves a ski-mask and a baseball bat;
more subtle approaches rely on spray-paint, which does less
damage to the expensive equipment, but spray paint is a Controlled Substance
in many cities....

Other approaches, for the video-surveillance types of cameras,
are to always use appropriate gestures when you're near the things.


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On Thu, 1 May 1997, geeman wrote:

> have an effect on people's behavior with respect to what they say, whom
> they associate with, 
> the clothes they wear, the thoughts they think...
> 
> How do you hack a camera?

  Splatball (paintball) gun should do the trick.

    Brian

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At 9:02 PM -0800 5/10/97, Alan Olsen wrote:

>The best weapon against a 35mm camera is a flash from a camera.  Aim at the
>lens and fire.  (Only if they are looking through it.)  The screams are
>worth it.  (One of the few joys of my high school photography class.)

Reminds me of an old astronomy club trick.

Take any reasonble aperture telescope. Use a reasonable magnification for
the target such that target window fills the field of view. Place a
standard electronic flash where the eye normally is. (Increased efficiency
is gotten by arranging for as much of the output to go into the eyepieces
as possible...this can be done with an "integrating sphere," e.g., an
aluminum foil sphere with a single exit at the eyepiece.)

After dark, aim the telescope in the window of your victim. Best results
are gotten if they have the lights off, e.g., while they're watching
television.

Trigger the flash.

The startled reactions as their room fills with a flash of light are
interesting. Some of them may even think they're under nuclear attack.

This of course works best from afar. Apartment buildings with views of
other apartment buildings, for example. Don't this from the bushes, or even
from across a street.

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On Fri, 9 May 1997, Brian C. Lane wrote:

> On Thu, 1 May 1997, geeman wrote:
> 
> > have an effect on people's behavior with respect to what they say, whom
> > they associate with, 
> > the clothes they wear, the thoughts they think...
> > 
> > How do you hack a camera?
> 
>   Splatball (paintball) gun should do the trick.

I suppose if you make it expensive enough by damaging enough cameras, 
and any replacements, they will go away (or be better hidden).  The trick 
is to do this without being caught. :)

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In <Pine.SUN.3.91.970513185533.5776Z-100000@beast.brainlink.com>, on
05/13/97 at 04:56 PM,
   Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com> said:


>On Fri, 9 May 1997, Brian C. Lane wrote:

>> On Thu, 1 May 1997, geeman wrote:
>> 
>> > have an effect on people's behavior with respect to what they say, whom
>> > they associate with, 
>> > the clothes they wear, the thoughts they think...
>> > 
>> > How do you hack a camera?
>> 
>>   Splatball (paintball) gun should do the trick.

>I suppose if you make it expensive enough by damaging enough cameras,  and
>any replacements, they will go away (or be better hidden).  The trick  is
>to do this without being caught. :)

I think if enough got damaged they would just replace them with cheap dummy
cameras and hide the real ones. 

Orwell like most great thinkers was just ahead of his time.

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At 03:44 PM 5/9/97 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote:
>On Thu, 1 May 1997, geeman wrote:
>
>> have an effect on people's behavior with respect to what they say, whom
>> they associate with, 
>> the clothes they wear, the thoughts they think...
>> 
>> How do you hack a camera?
>
>  Splatball (paintball) gun should do the trick.

The best weapon against a 35mm camera is a flash from a camera.  Aim at the
lens and fire.  (Only if they are looking through it.)  The screams are
worth it.  (One of the few joys of my high school photography class.)

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> have an effect on people's behavior with respect to what they say, whom
> they associate with, 
> the clothes they wear, the thoughts they think...
> How do you hack a camera?

	I'd suggest a small laser.

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In <199705040009.TAA04680@smoke.suba.com>, on 05/03/97 at 06:09 PM,
   snow <snow@smoke.suba.com> said:


>> have an effect on people's behavior with respect to what they say, whom
>> they associate with, 
>> the clothes they wear, the thoughts they think...
>> How do you hack a camera?

>	I'd suggest a small laser.

I prefer the low-tech approach: a big rock. :)

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