NODE da4e01f4Digital Signatures & THE LAW???
"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>Sun, 29 Jun 1997 23:44:13 +0800
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Has there been any concideration for the difference between a digital
signature that is used only for authentication and one that is legally
binding??
I would hate for these Digital Signature Laws make every e-mail message I
sent a legally binding document. :(
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NODE 056c7c12repudiable signatures (was Re: Digital Signatures & THE LAW???)
Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:18:16 +0800
William Geiger <whgii@amaranth.com> writes:
> Has there been any concideration for the difference between a
> digital signature that is used only for authentication and one that
> is legally binding??
>
> I would hate for these Digital Signature Laws make every e-mail
> message I sent a legally binding document. :(
Not a complete solution, but one technical fix, if you're sending
e-mail to an individual, rather than a post to a group such as this is
to use repudiable signatures.
These work by ensuring that the recipient and only the recipient can
forge the signature. As the recipient can forge the signature it
falls back to his word against yours, which is the situation without
signatures. However he (the recipient) will be convinced that you
wrote the signed document, or at least as convinced as he is that
someone else hasn't covertly obtained a copy of his private key.
If you're using a repudiable signature, it won't hold up in court, or
at least it shouldn't, if you can get the jury to grok that.
Personally I can't see any reason for individuals not to use
repudiable signatures for email. Email is generally regarded as
private, and to give someone a signed email allows them to not only
post your email which you may not want, but to undeniably prove that
you wrote it!
Mathematically an easy way to create deniable signatures with RSA is:
Alice sending Bob a signed email. We want:
( X ^ A_pub ) xor ( Y ^ B_pub ) = hash( message )
Alice chooses random Y, and computes X:
X = [ ( Y ^ B_pub ) XOR hash( message ) ] ^ A_pri
Now the repudiable digital signature is X and Y.
To verify the signature the recipient checks that:
X ^ A_pub XOR Y ^ B_pub = hash( message )
Repudation is possible because Bob could also produce that same
signature with knowledge of B_pri, for Bob X is a random number, and Y
is calculated:
Y = [ ( X ^ A_pub ) XOR hash( message ) ] ^ B_pri
(In practice you would have to store X and Y in random order,
otherwise if the sender always comes first, it's no longer repudiable.
As a result to check the signature you may have to swap X and Y if the
signature fails first time).
Adam
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NODE 62ac56c2Re: Digital Signatures & THE LAW???
"Robert A. Costner" <pooh@efga.org>Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:11:17 +0800
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At 10:35 AM 6/29/97 -0500, William H. Geiger III wrote:
>Has there been any concideration for the difference between a digital
>signature that is used only for authentication and one that is legally
>binding??
>
>I would hate for these Digital Signature Laws make every e-mail message I
>sent a legally binding document. :(
Examples of signatures that have previously been tested as legal binding
signatures include not only actual signatures, but an 'X' and 'Mickey Mouse'.
The intention of "legally binding" is merely the proof of authentication.
So yes, I would say that all digitally signed email in now legally binding,
with one exception.
There has been a move to make a digital writing a writing only when both
parties agree to it's usage. There is a belief that some documents should
not be digital. An example is an eviction notice. Stapling a diskette to
the doorframe may not be acceptable notice for eviction, as compared with a
paper notice. Since most internet users are ineffective at managing their
email, a legal notice deposited in an inbox may not be a desirable way to
serve notice.
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NODE 143c7536Re: Digital Signatures & THE LAW???
Greg Broiles <gbroiles@netbox.com>Tue, 1 Jul 1997 07:58:38 +0800
William Geiger III wrote:
>Has there been any concideration for the difference between a digital
>signature that is used only for authentication and one that is legally
>binding??
>
>I would hate for these Digital Signature Laws make every e-mail message I
>sent a legally binding document. :(
I realize I'm in danger of sounding like Tim here, but I remember writing a
long message about this some months ago - perhaps it's available through
the archives.
"Legally binding" isn't a useful way to think about this sort of thing.
Signatures serve at least two different purposes; sometimes they're
required to form a contract (say, for the transfer of an interest in real
estate, or a contract which cannot be performed in less than a year, or for
the sale of goods worth more than $500) and sometimes they serve as
evidence that a person has had access to or contact with a physical thing
(like a paper copy of an agreement).
Contract law does not revolve around signatures, it revolves around
agreements. If you don't have an agreement with someone (and haven't acted
in a way which would have led a reasonable person to think you had an
agreement) then you don't have a contract with them. A signature can be
evidence of an agreement, and it may be required to form certain
agreements; but a signature is not an agreement. It's a pattern made with
ink or with bits; an agreement is a legal relationship. The map is not the
territory.
If your e-mail doesn't seem to be proposing an agreement, or accepting an
agreement, I don't think you need to worry that you're going to
accidentally form a contract with someone. Other concerns (like, say, that
a digitally signed message could be introduced as evidence in a criminal or
civil trial) seem to stem from the assumption that unsigned messages won't
be admissible .. and I think that assumption will prove to be false. Courts
admit evidence whose origin is disputed or uncertain all of the time, and
trust the jury to decide who they'll believe. There's no reason to assume
that electronic evidence (as opposed to eyewitness accounts, or
photographic evidence, or other falsifiable evidence) will be excluded
because it's potentially suspect. The addition of a digital signature makes
the spurious "But how do you know *I* sent that messsage?" argument less
plausible - but I think that argument's a loser anyway, at least in most
cases.
If you're really worried about it, you could add "THIS KEY WILL NOT BE USED
TO SIGN OR FORM CONTRACTS" to your ID string for your public key - but I'm
not sure it really makes much difference.
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