NODE 5718ef3aNYT on German Net Police
John Young <jya@pipeline.com>Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:47:52 +0800
The New York Times reports on page one the German
prosecution of a woman who linked her home page to
Radikal. It reviews XS4ALL's role, describes Radikal
and its mirror sites and links to them all:
http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/060697germany.html
It says that Kohl is determined to find a way to police the
Net in spite of technical work-a-rounds.
Recall a previous report that Kohl and other heads of state are
to meet in Denver on June 20-22 to plan a global attack
on "cyber-terrorism," including the spread of encryption:
http://jya.com/denver.htm
NODE f7c1dfddPrivacy-loving Europeans are at it again
Tim May <tcmay@got.net>Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:03:26 +0800
At 5:19 AM -0700 6/6/97, John Young wrote:
>The New York Times reports on page one the German
>prosecution of a woman who linked her home page to
>Radikal. It reviews XS4ALL's role, describes Radikal
>and its mirror sites and links to them all:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/060697germany.html
>
>It says that Kohl is determined to find a way to police the
>Net in spite of technical work-a-rounds.
>
>Recall a previous report that Kohl and other heads of state are
>to meet in Denver on June 20-22 to plan a global attack
>on "cyber-terrorism," including the spread of encryption:
>
> http://jya.com/denver.htm
Wait a minute, John! Aren't these the same Europeans described by Marc
Rotenberg as being more privacy- and liberty=loving than Americans?
--Tim May
There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws.
Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!"
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NODE 77c8f916Re: Privacy-loving Europeans are at it again
"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:47:42 +0800
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>At 5:19 AM -0700 6/6/97, John Young wrote:
>>The New York Times reports on page one the German
>>prosecution of a woman who linked her home page to
>>Radikal. It reviews XS4ALL's role, describes Radikal
>>and its mirror sites and links to them all:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/060697germany.html
>>
>>It says that Kohl is determined to find a way to police the
>>Net in spite of technical work-a-rounds.
>>
>>Recall a previous report that Kohl and other heads of state are
>>to meet in Denver on June 20-22 to plan a global attack
>>on "cyber-terrorism," including the spread of encryption:
>>
>> http://jya.com/denver.htm
>Wait a minute, John! Aren't these the same Europeans described by Marc
>Rotenberg as being more privacy- and liberty=loving than Americans?
Perhaps someone could donate a Rider Truck for the evnet. <EG>
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NODE 200e4fb8Re: NYT on German Net Police
Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:21:07 +0800
At 8:19 am -0400 on 6/6/97, John Young wrote:
> Recall a previous report that Kohl and other heads of state are
> to meet in Denver on June 20-22 to plan a global attack
> on "cyber-terrorism," including the spread of encryption:
>
> http://jya.com/denver.htm
Wow. What an opportunity for street theater *that* might be...
Anyone up for a little road-trip?
Yeah, I know. Everyone *else* has a *job*, or something... :-).
Cheers,
Bob Hettinga
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NODE 87461637Re: NYT on German Net Police
Jim Burnes <jim.burnes@ssds.com>Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:33:26 +0800
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Robert Hettinga wrote:
> At 8:19 am -0400 on 6/6/97, John Young wrote:
>
>
> > Recall a previous report that Kohl and other heads of state are
> > to meet in Denver on June 20-22 to plan a global attack
> > on "cyber-terrorism," including the spread of encryption:
> >
> > http://jya.com/denver.htm
>
> Wow. What an opportunity for street theater *that* might be...
>
> Anyone up for a little road-trip?
>
> Yeah, I know. Everyone *else* has a *job*, or something... :-).
>
> Cheers,
> Bob Hettinga
>
I live in Denver, Bob. Let me know what you have in mind. ;-)
Jim Burnes
PS: I've been wanting to track down some of my FC97 buddies. Could
you forward me the FC97 mailing list? Thanx.
NODE 09ce3249Re: NYT on German Net Police
Tim May <tcmay@got.net>Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:45:27 +0800
At 7:40 AM -0700 6/6/97, Robert Hettinga wrote:
>At 8:19 am -0400 on 6/6/97, John Young wrote:
>
>
>> Recall a previous report that Kohl and other heads of state are
>> to meet in Denver on June 20-22 to plan a global attack
>> on "cyber-terrorism," including the spread of encryption:
>>
>> http://jya.com/denver.htm
>
>Wow. What an opportunity for street theater *that* might be...
>
>Anyone up for a little road-trip?
>
>Yeah, I know. Everyone *else* has a *job*, or something... :-).
No, I don't have a job.
But there's no way in hell I'm going to expose myself to imprisonment in a
German jail to make some metaphorical point about the resurgence of fascism
in Germany.
--Tim May
There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws.
Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!"
---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:----
Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments.
"National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."