Re: May's Banal Rant

I just came back from the 7th annual crypto
conference that we've  organized in DC. Among
the people who spoke were Carl Ellison, Eric
Hughes, Matt Blaze, Peter Wayner, Cindy Cohn,
Bruce Schneier. (Michael Froomkin was invited, but
he's been out of the country. And Whit couldn't
make it cause he's finishing his book.)

Like I said, Tim May et al are behind the
curve. You guys preach cyber anarchy but
you're really armchair activists.

Marc.


- For anyone interested in getting the most
recent EPIC Crypto Privacy Sourcebook, we
should have a notice on our web site by the
end of the week.

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In <v03007800afb8f136d5bc@[204.91.138.31]>, on 06/02/97 
   at 05:06 PM, Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org> said:



>I just came back from the 7th annual crypto
>conference that we've  organized in DC. Among
>the people who spoke were Carl Ellison, Eric
>Hughes, Matt Blaze, Peter Wayner, Cindy Cohn,
>Bruce Schneier. (Michael Froomkin was invited, but
>he's been out of the country. And Whit couldn't
>make it cause he's finishing his book.)

>Like I said, Tim May et al are behind the
>curve. You guys preach cyber anarchy but
>you're really armchair activists.

Well lets see,

While you were hobnobbing in DC today I did the following:

Spent time on the phone with PGP, Inc. going over various modifications
that I have been working on to the PGP code.

Spoke with 3 E-Mail vendors on the implementation of crypto to there
products.

Spent several hours on IRC disscussing with a group of IRC authors on the
design and implemntation of Private Encrypted channel to their IRC
products.

Exchanged E-Mail regurarding PGP/MIME update draft.

Spent the rest of the day writting & debuging crypto code.

So *EXACTLY* where are we behind the curve?

While you are playing your fanticy games in DC as self appointed defender
of "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" the rest of us were doing *REAL*
work bringing crypto to the masses.


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Marky Mark Rotten writes:

> Like I said, Tim May et al are behind the
> curve. You guys preach cyber anarchy but
> you're really armchair activists.

That's "Crypto Anarchy."

> - For anyone interested in getting the most
> recent EPIC Crypto Privacy Sourcebook, we
> should have a notice on our web site by the
> end of the week.

I'll put reading the latest EPIC (spit) publication on my list of very
important things to do, right after donating copiously to the National
Brotherhood of Jackbooted Thugs, and having my private parts steam-cleaned
by Cocksucker John Gilmore. 

Armchair activists indeed. 

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