Re: IRS Hit

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In <1.5.4.32.19970605134956.008db240@pop.pipeline.com>, on 06/05/97 
   at 08:49 AM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> said:

>In a harshly worded 17-page opinion, Judge William Downes of  the U.S.
>District Court in Denver found that one of the IRS  agents, James Dolan,
>was "grossly negligent" and acted with  "reckless disregard" for the law,
>and that he made three false  statements in a sworn declaration.

So why is James Dolan still working for the IRS?

Why is he not under enditement for perjury?

Oh I forgot Federal Agents are "just a group of humans" so I guess we
shouldn't expect the laws of the land to apply to them.

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, William H. Geiger III wrote:

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> In <1.5.4.32.19970605134956.008db240@pop.pipeline.com>, on 06/05/97 
>    at 08:49 AM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> said:
> 
> >In a harshly worded 17-page opinion, Judge William Downes of  the U.S.
> >District Court in Denver found that one of the IRS  agents, James Dolan,
> >was "grossly negligent" and acted with  "reckless disregard" for the law,
> >and that he made three false  statements in a sworn declaration.
> 
> So why is James Dolan still working for the IRS?
> 
> Why is he not under enditement for perjury?
> 
> Oh I forgot Federal Agents are "just a group of humans" so I guess we
> shouldn't expect the laws of the land to apply to them.
> 

The defendant is perfectly able to bring charges in this matter against
James Dolan personally.  There is precedent in this.  If my read of
the judge is accurate he is saying, "go after him because he was acting
outside his office".

I can't remember the exact name of this decision, but I think it was
something like "so-and-so vs. 5 unnamed FBI officers".

I'm not a lawyer and I'm not sure how one would proceed in this case,
but some official anti-IRS group should fund it.

Jim Burnes

At 04:59 PM 6/5/97 -0600, Jim Burnes wrote:
>The defendant is perfectly able to bring charges in this matter against
>James Dolan personally.  There is precedent in this.  If my read of
>the judge is accurate he is saying, "go after him because he was acting
>outside his office".
>
>I can't remember the exact name of this decision, but I think it was
>something like "so-and-so vs. 5 unnamed FBI officers".

It's _Bivens v. Six Unknown Federal Narcotics Agents_, 403 US 388 (1971),
or <http://www.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=403&invol=388>.


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In <3.0.2.32.19970605170523.00886470@mail.io.com>, on 06/05/97 
   at 05:05 PM, Greg Broiles <gbroiles@netbox.com> said:


>At 04:59 PM 6/5/97 -0600, Jim Burnes wrote:
>>The defendant is perfectly able to bring charges in this matter against
>>James Dolan personally.  There is precedent in this.  If my read of
>>the judge is accurate he is saying, "go after him because he was acting
>>outside his office".
>>
>>I can't remember the exact name of this decision, but I think it was
>>something like "so-and-so vs. 5 unnamed FBI officers".

>It's _Bivens v. Six Unknown Federal Narcotics Agents_, 403 US 388 (1971),
>or
><http://www.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=403&invol=388>.

The problem here is that we are talking civil action not criminal
prosecution. Both James Dolan and his co-conspiritors should be up on
criminal charges and spend a nice long vacation at "club fed".

I am sure that the federal appologist on the list will have some excuse
why federal agents should be exempt from procecution when they commit
felonies against the citizens of this country that they are hired to serve
and protect.

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