NODE 24f7ed39Re: "Fuck tha EFF": New banner for Netscum page
dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:50:40 +0800
Aaron Marquez <marquez@pacbell.net> writes:
> I find it curious that when the EFF was silent about the netscum page, the
> majority of you were supportive of the EFF, but as soon as the EFF said that
> they weren't interested in being associated with the netscum page, the party
> line suddenly became "the EFF is a bunch of corporate whores..."
This is a lie, like everything else Aaron Marquez says.
We've been condemnding EFF at least since October 96, when we caught one of
the cocksuckers in charge of it in blatant censorship.
> What explanation can there be for such a quick 180 other than to conclude
> that you're suffering from a big case of sour grapes? And at any rate, how
> does EFF-bashing on a mailing list advance the cause of electronic freedom?
> I think it's been made obvious what you think of the EFF, why repeat it over
> and over to people who already know?
This is a lie (see above).
Dave, why did you subscribe this Cabal stooge to this mailing list
without announcing it? :-(
> >If one dislikes the "National Socialists", the closet historical analogue
> >of the Usenet Cabal, it doesn't follow that one is against socialism.
>
> I disagree that the so-called Usenet Cabal is akin to the National
> Socialists.
Marquez is not even amusing - just a Cabal liar.
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NODE f288dffdRe: "Fuck tha EFF": New banner for Netscum page
Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>Sun, 22 Jun 1997 02:02:56 +0800
> > they weren't interested in being associated with the netscum page, the party
> > line suddenly became "the EFF is a bunch of corporate whores..."
>
> We've been condemnding EFF at least since October 96, when we caught one of
> the cocksuckers in charge of it in blatant censorship.
I have always had a healthy fear of the alphabet soup "cyber rights"
(never trust anyone who calls a lot of wires, routers and telephone lines
"cyberspace") groups, but what turned me against the EFF in particular
was the way in which their obvious support for their main source of
funding (ie. coporate groups and interests) turned them against their
public, they sold out, and they sold their members out. Of course the
Gilmore <spit> incident convinced me even more.
> > I disagree that the so-called Usenet Cabal is akin to the National
> > Socialists.
>
> Marquez is not even amusing - just a Cabal liar.
The term liar after cabal is an unnecesary redundancy. All cabal members
are censorous liars, but what`s new...
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