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What are some of the better colleges/universities to study 
Computer/Network security at? I know MIT is a good one. Any others 
that aren't quite so hard to get in to that still offer quality 
programs?
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Nick West
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At 2:17 PM -0700 7/19/97, Nick West wrote:
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>What are some of the better colleges/universities to study
>Computer/Network security at? I know MIT is a good one. Any others
>that aren't quite so hard to get in to that still offer quality
>programs?

Do you mean for grad school, or for undergrad work?

If the former, look for where the papers that interest you are coming from.
That is, whom do you want to work with? UC Berkeley is obviously doing
interesting work, Purude has some well known folks, and Carnegie-Mellon is
in the home city of CERT (maybe not a recommendation...). And Stanford is
always a hotbed. At least a dozen other places are doing fine work.

If for undergrad work, you of course won't have any exposure to speak of in
these areas, save for one or two courses. Maybe.

Ask Sameer Parekh why he picked Berkeley over MIT for his undergraduate
experience (apparently now on hiatus as he runs his company).

--Tim May


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Tim May <tcmay@got.net> writes:
> At 2:17 PM -0700 7/19/97, Nick West wrote:
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> >What are some of the better colleges/universities to study
> >Computer/Network security at? I know MIT is a good one. Any others
> >that aren't quite so hard to get in to that still offer quality
> >programs?
> 
> Do you mean for grad school, or for undergrad work?
> 
> If the former, look for where the papers that interest you are coming from.
> That is, whom do you want to work with? UC Berkeley is obviously doing
> interesting work, Purude has some well known folks, and Carnegie-Mellon is
> in the home city of CERT (maybe not a recommendation...). And Stanford is
> always a hotbed. At least a dozen other places are doing fine work.
> 
> If for undergrad work, you of course won't have any exposure to speak of in
> these areas, save for one or two courses. Maybe.

CMU does lots of real world crypto stuff, mostly centering around
Kerberos. There's some good theory here, too. In addition, NetBill
(book-entry bastards) does some crypto. If you were interested in
working one of those projects, you could easily do so as an undergrad.
There's also one "number theory" class which is basically crypto 101.
As for grad work, if you're interested in number theory and such, you
could do well here. Otherwise, you might consider somewhere else.

Allumnusly yours,
Jer

BTW, the administration here is a bunch of bloody facists.

"standing on top of the world/ never knew how you never could/ never knew
 why you never could live/ innocent life that everyone did" -Wormhole

Tim May wrote:
> 
> At 2:17 PM -0700 7/19/97, Nick West wrote:
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> >What are some of the better colleges/universities to study
> >Computer/Network security at? I know MIT is a good one. Any others
> >that aren't quite so hard to get in to that still offer quality
> >programs?
> 
> Do you mean for grad school, or for undergrad work?
> 
> If the former, look for where the papers that interest you are coming
> from.  That is, whom do you want to work with? UC Berkeley is
> obviously doing interesting work, Purude has some well known folks,
> and Carnegie-Mellon is in the home city of CERT (maybe not a
> recommendation...). And Stanford is always a hotbed. At least a dozen
> other places are doing fine work.

Princeton and the University of Washington are also doing some
interesting things, if you're interested in Java security.

-- 
What is appropriate for the master is not appropriate| Tom Weinstein
for the novice.  You must understand Tao before      | tomw@netscape.com
transcending structure.  -- The Tao of Programming   |

Tim May <tcmay@got.net> writes:
> Ask Sameer Parekh why he picked Berkeley over MIT for his undergraduate
> experience (apparently now on hiatus as he runs his company).

Because the Arab terrorist Sameer "Gas the Kikes" Parekh likes to suck
big dicks.  There are even more fags at Berkeley/San Francisco than
at MIT/Cambridge, and Sameer likes being with his fellow cocksuckers.

Where is Cunanan when the cryptographic field needs him?

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

On Sat, 19 Jul 1997, Tim May wrote:

> If the former, look for where the papers that interest you are coming from.
> That is, whom do you want to work with? UC Berkeley is obviously doing
> interesting work, Purude has some well known folks, and Carnegie-Mellon is
> in the home city of CERT (maybe not a recommendation...). And Stanford is
> always a hotbed. At least a dozen other places are doing fine work.

You do realize that CERT is run by the Software Engineering Institute, a
division/center/something run by Carnegie-Mellon, right?

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