RE: Entrust Technologies's Solo - free download

This is all nice and good, but the question is who is Chris Lewis, what is 
his connection to northern telecom, what the hell do you mean by forgery, 
are you implying the technology that entrust has in it's secure kernal is 
stolen? Keeping in mind that using public domain algorithms is not theft, 
and also keeping in mind that they have a patent license from public key 
partners, which allows them to use the "rsa" patents, and keeping in mind 
that a fully featured certificate system is much more than just a 
cryptography product. Is the law being broken here? Is there a breach of 
ethics at Entrust?

To restate.....what's wrong with what entrust is doing? Everyone has had 
such a good time talking about spamming and cancels, but I'm really 
interested in how Nortel is somehow committing a forgery.

Also looking around the dejanews stuff about lewis, he seems to be a spam 
cancel freak yes, but no pedophile.

Dimitri,   you seem to be a pretty smart guy...enlighten me on this whole 
thing. Do you mean that Nortel has a hand in the forging of spam cancels? 
Or do you mean that they have a hand in forging software?


  Chris DiBona



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From:	Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM [SMTP:dlv@bwalk.dm.com]
Sent:	Wednesday, July 30, 1997 6:22 AM
To:	cypherpunks@toad.com; freedom-knights@jetcafe.org
Subject:	Re: Entrust Technologies's Solo - free download

> Entrust Technologies (www.entrust.com) has made Solo available for
> download, free for 30-day evaluation & edu/non-profit. For Win95/NT.
> A mere $49 Cdn (~35 US) for commerical usage...
>
> For e-mail / file encryption, digital signature
>
> Solo uses 128-bit encryption, which is CAST-128, the royality-free
> algorithm invented at Entrust/NorTel. It also uses 1024-bit RSA 
public-key
> cryptography and has DES, Triple DES available.
>
> Also follows FIPS 140-1 validated security kernel. It is compatible with
> other Solo clients (of course), Entrust/Lite and Entrust.

I ask everyone on these two forums to inform Northern Telecom Forgers /
Bell North Forgery Research / Entrust that we will boycott their
"security" products as long they continue to employ the child-molesting
pedophile Chris R. Lewis - the biggest forger on Usenet.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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In <01BC9D99.CD73D990.chrisd@loc201.tandem.com>, on 07/31/97 
   at 10:09 AM, Chris DiBona <chrisd@loc201.tandem.com> said:

>This is all nice and good, but the question is who is Chris Lewis, what
>is  his connection to northern telecom, what the hell do you mean by
>forgery,  are you implying the technology that entrust has in it's secure
>kernal is  stolen? Keeping in mind that using public domain algorithms is
>not theft,  and also keeping in mind that they have a patent license from
>public key  partners, which allows them to use the "rsa" patents, and
>keeping in mind  that a fully featured certificate system is much more
>than just a  cryptography product. Is the law being broken here? Is there
>a breach of  ethics at Entrust?

>To restate.....what's wrong with what entrust is doing? Everyone has had 
>such a good time talking about spamming and cancels, but I'm really 
>interested in how Nortel is somehow committing a forgery.

>Also looking around the dejanews stuff about lewis, he seems to be a spam
> cancel freak yes, but no pedophile.

>Dimitri,   you seem to be a pretty smart guy...enlighten me on this whole
> thing. Do you mean that Nortel has a hand in the forging of spam
>cancels?  Or do you mean that they have a hand in forging software?

Well Dimitri has his own unique way of putting things. :)

This is my understanding of the issue that Dimitri has brought up:

- -- Chris Lewis is activly persuing a cource of censorship by forging &
canceling messages on USENET.

- -- Because of this activity Chris Lewis has low reputation capital.

- -- Nortel, by employing Chris Lewis, has reduced their reputation capital.

- -- Because of Nortel's reduced reputation capital their security products
are suspect.

Now, myself would require more information as to Chris Lewis' envolvement
with Nortel & their security products before I would be willing to come to
the same conclution that Dimitri has.

If Chris Lewis is only a janitor for Nortel I can not see how is
reputation capital would affect Nortel's. On the other hand if he was
activly involved with their security products or in a management position
where he could influance desisions about thier security products then I
would be apt to call into question just how secure their products were.

Of cource if they released thier source code then one could check for
themselfs the trustworthyness of their product.

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On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, William H. Geiger III wrote:

[...]

> Now, myself would require more information as to Chris Lewis' envolvement
> with Nortel & their security products before I would be willing to come to
> the same conclution that Dimitri has.

IIRC he is in charge of network securaty at Nortel.  But I dout that he
is involved in R&D.


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