NODE 19f192b0House Report on SAFE
John Young <jya@pipeline.com>Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:49:04 +0800
House Report 105-108, Part 2, July 25, 1997, reports on the
recent House International Relations Committee action on
Goodlatte's SAFE crypto bill, and includes analysis, supporting
and dissenting views, and a few letters sent to the committee:
http://jyx.com/hr105-108-pt2.htm (87K)
As before offered, see HR 105-108, Part 1, published at the end of
May:
http://jyx.com/hr105-108-pt2.txt (94K)
Note: that's JYX.COM, (same as 108240.primehost.com)
our temp site to fill in for remanded JYA which is to be unJimmed
soon, isn't it, your honor, what stink you screeching about, that's
just rotting pork.
NODE e6d3a863Re: House Report on SAFE
Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>Fri, 1 Aug 1997 00:46:12 +0800
At 8:32 am -0400 on 7/31/97, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> "We are in unanimous agreement that congress must adopt
> encryption legislation that requires the development,
> manufacture, distribution and sale of only key recovery
> products."
>
> Darrell L. Sanders, President, International Association of
> Chiefs of Police.
>
> James E. Doyle, President, National Association of
> Attorneys General.
>
> Fred Scoralic, President, National Sheriffs' Association.
As if these fuckwits had any conception of cryptography at all.
Sheesh. This is truly the revenge of the NSA.
Telling Louis Freeh -- a man who got his 'bones' busting mafiosi with
wiretaps -- that he couldn't do it any more if strong cryptography was
legal was a pure stroke of luddite genius on the part of Stew Baker & Co.
Self-inflicted sabotage if there ever was any. Frankly -- and I'll probably
get shouted down here for saying this here -- the *only* way to shut these
idiots up is for them to be standing exactly on the other side of economic
progress. Which, to me, means, bearer certificate commerce as fast as
possible.
It's impossible to ban aviation if the enemy has strategic bombing, much
less civil aviation. Cavalry charges on tanks look kind of silly.
Economic power is the only power there is.
Cheers,
Bob Hettinga
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NODE 0410c3efRe: House Report on SAFE
Declan McCullagh <declan@pathfinder.com>Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:49:28 +0800
Note the following ominous excerpt from one of the letters:
"We are in unanimous agreement that congress must adopt
encryption legislation that requires the development,
manufacture, distribution and sale of only key recovery
products."
Darrell L. Sanders, President, International Association of
Chiefs of Police.
James E. Doyle, President, National Association of
Attorneys General.
Fred Scoralic, President, National Sheriffs' Association.
-Declan
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, John Young wrote:
> House Report 105-108, Part 2, July 25, 1997, reports on the
> recent House International Relations Committee action on
> Goodlatte's SAFE crypto bill, and includes analysis, supporting
> and dissenting views, and a few letters sent to the committee:
>
> http://jyx.com/hr105-108-pt2.htm (87K)
>
> As before offered, see HR 105-108, Part 1, published at the end of
> May:
>
> http://jyx.com/hr105-108-pt2.txt (94K)
>
> Note: that's JYX.COM, (same as 108240.primehost.com)
> our temp site to fill in for remanded JYA which is to be unJimmed
> soon, isn't it, your honor, what stink you screeching about, that's
> just rotting pork.
>
>
>
NODE 6de5f74eRe: House Report on SAFE
Apache <apache@bear.apana.org.au>Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:17:54 +0800
John Young said:
>Note: that's JYX.COM, (same as 108240.primehost.com)
>our temp site to fill in for remanded JYA which is to be unJimmed
>soon, isn't it, your honor, what stink you screeching about, that's
>just rotting pork.
I must have missed a post on this. Have you been ordered to remove
material by Jim Bell? Has equipment been seized?
(Feel free to cc: cypherpunks if it's relevant)
Any background on this would be appreciated, or any pointers to texts you
may have online already explaining it are equally welcomed.
Rgds.
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