NODE e5135cfbRe: NSA leak (fwd)
Secret Squirrel <nobody@secret.squirrel.owl.de>Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:47:36 +0800
Subject: Re: NSA leak (fwd)
Ian Goldberg <iang@cs.berkeley.edu> writes:
> 2. Their cracker changes the state of 2^128 bits in 33 minutes. This is
> being extremely generous;
> (Actually, for all I know, terawatt power sources
> may exist; that's out of my field. Please let me know if this is the case.
Not within a few million miles of here, and they'd be hard to conceal.
A few GW is fairly easy, by several methods.
Terrestrial fusion is not a serious contender yet, and I doubt
it will be for a long time.
> 3. They have a quantum computer, or some alien technology, or something
> else we know pretty much nothing about.
> Given this choice, I would vote for #3. :-) However, I'd go out on a limb
> and say that the NSA guy was simply lying (or that the anecdote itself is
> mistaken).
I agree. The 'something else' could be info about RNG flaws I suppose.
This guy couldn't be thinking about DES could he ?
NODE f7844720Re: NSA leak (fwd)
Harry Tuttle Remailer <h_tuttle@rigel.cyberpass.net>Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:33:16 +0800
On Sun, Jul 27, 1997 at 11:46:00PM -0000, Secret Squirrel wrote:
> Subject: Re: NSA leak (fwd)
>
> Ian Goldberg <iang@cs.berkeley.edu> writes:
> > 2. Their cracker changes the state of 2^128 bits in 33 minutes. This is
> > being extremely generous;
>
> > (Actually, for all I know, terawatt power sources
> > may exist; that's out of my field. Please let me know if this is the case.
>
>
> Not within a few million miles of here, and they'd be hard to conceal.
>
> A few GW is fairly easy, by several methods.
Terawatts for a few microseconds is fairly standard technology, I
believe. Femtosecond laser pulses driven by *very* large capacitor
banks...
> Terrestrial fusion is not a serious contender yet, and I doubt
> it will be for a long time.
It's easy to generate lots of power through fusion. The problem is
confinement.
NODE 59a6bc4dRe: NSA leak (fwd)
"Robert A. Hayden" <rhayden@orion.means.net>Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:15:09 +0800
FYI: I was only passing along information whcen I forwarded the original
message from fight-censorship.
Contrary to the hate mail I'm getting, I am not an NSA spook nor am I an
agent for some other TLA.
Please knock off the mailbombs, it's rather childish and tackey.
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