NODE 68a363f4State Charges in Weaver Case
Mike Duvos <enoch@zipcon.net>Fri, 22 Aug 1997 09:13:11 +0800
Here's an odd Ruby Ridge development, which just floated across
Reuters.
Idaho prosecutors have filed two sets of state charges against
persons involved in the incident.
Kevin Harris was charged with First Degree Murder for "killing
Deputy U.S. Marshall William Degan willfully and with malice
aforethought."
FBI Sniper Lon Horiuchi was charged with involuntary manslaughter
in the death of Vicki Weaver.
Shouldn't it be First Degree Murder for deliberately killing
someones wife with a baby in her arms, and involuntary
manslaughter for using possibly excessive force against an armed
attacker?
Seems a bit backwards to me.
I suppose it has something to do with that "only following
orders" thing. :)
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NODE 47eb739fRe: State Charges in Weaver Case
Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com>Fri, 22 Aug 1997 09:37:37 +0800
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Mike Duvos wrote:
> I suppose it has something to do with that "only following
> orders" thing. :)
Fine, then what shall we charge the one that gave the order with? And
what shal be the punishment? If the one who takes the order relinquishes
reposability, then the one giving the order must be doubly responsible.
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NODE 25cb8aaaRe: State Charges in Weaver Case
dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)Fri, 22 Aug 1997 15:00:47 +0800
Mike Duvos <enoch@zipcon.net> writes:
>
> Shouldn't it be ... involuntary
> manslaughter for using possibly excessive force against an armed
> attacker?
No, it should be a $100 reward for icing a motherfucking fed.
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NODE 16ddc099Re: State Charges in Weaver Case
"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>Fri, 22 Aug 1997 16:09:26 +0800
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In <19970822005931.27111.qmail@zipcon.net>, on 08/21/97
at 05:59 PM, Mike Duvos <enoch@zipcon.net> said:
>Here's an odd Ruby Ridge development, which just floated across Reuters.
>Idaho prosecutors have filed two sets of state charges against persons
>involved in the incident.
>Kevin Harris was charged with First Degree Murder for "killing Deputy
>U.S. Marshall William Degan willfully and with malice aforethought."
>FBI Sniper Lon Horiuchi was charged with involuntary manslaughter in the
>death of Vicki Weaver.
>Shouldn't it be First Degree Murder for deliberately killing someones
>wife with a baby in her arms, and involuntary
>manslaughter for using possibly excessive force against an armed
>attacker?
>Seems a bit backwards to me.
>I suppose it has something to do with that "only following
>orders" thing. :)
He should be up on 1st Degree Murder charges as these were a planned,
permeditated murders. Freeh, Reno, and Clinton should all be up on the
same caharges as co-consiritors for planning and ordering the murders and
for covering up the matter after the fact.
Of cource all 3 should be introduced to "'ol Sparky" for their part in the
murders at Waco.
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