NODE fc55ffcbCIA/NSA Index
John Young <jya@pipeline.com>Thu, 14 Aug 1997 21:00:44 +0800
There's a provocative list of forbidden CIA and NSA/CSS
records which are not available under the Privacy Act, and
which constitute a sort of negative awaiting development:
http://jya.com/cia-privacy.htm (82 categories)
http://jya.com/nsa-privacy.htm (19 categories)
There are similar lists of national privacy proscriptives for
most federal agencies available at the source for these. The
one for Defense is an elephantine 1.4 MB, with tiny tims for
the TLAs.
NODE 8f60181cTim McVeigh's Quote
Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>Fri, 15 Aug 1997 04:07:30 +0800
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The mentally challenged in the audience couldn't figure out what McVeigh was
saying with his Brandeis quote at the sentencing hearing. I think we can
probably figure it out.
It is from Brandeis' dissent in OLMSTEAD v. U.S., 277 U.S. 438 (1928) one of
the first *wiretapping* cases. Here is the whole of the concluding paragraph
with the quoted portion in square brackets:
http://www.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=277&invol=438
"Decency, security, and liberty alike demand that government officials shall
be subjected to the same rules of conduct that are commands to the citizen.
In a government of laws, existence of the government will be imperiled if it
fails to observe the law scrupulously. [Our government is the potent, the
omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its
example.] Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it
breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself;
it invites anarchy. To declare that in the administration of the criminal law
the end justifies the means-to declare that the government may commit crimes
in order to secure the conviction of a private criminal-would bring terrible
retribution. Against that pernicious doctrine this court should resolutely
set its face."
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NODE c4ad8e17Re: CIA/NSA Index
Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com>Thu, 14 Aug 1997 23:46:22 +0800
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, John Young wrote:
> There's a provocative list of forbidden CIA and NSA/CSS
> records which are not available under the Privacy Act, and
> which constitute a sort of negative awaiting development:
>
> http://jya.com/cia-privacy.htm (82 categories)
>
> http://jya.com/nsa-privacy.htm (19 categories)
I hope you mirrored those text files, 'cause the links on gpo.gov that
you're pointing to show nothing on my browser. (could be the network here
is effed, but, check these sites again...)
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