NODE c4490c5dWhy the government should protect our privacy
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:15:06 +0800
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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:15:33 -0400
From: Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org>
To: declan@well.com, Michael Sims <jellicle@inch.com>
Cc: fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu
Subject: Re: trustee, shmustee
At 7:46 PM -0400 8/12/97, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Michael Sims wrote:
>>
>> What groups want for privacy of individuals:
>>
>> Government: Lots
>
>Michael, thank you for reminding us of the Clinton administration's
>valiant efforts to protect individual privacy.
>
>I agree that we should blissfully ignore that we're talking about the
>Clipper Chip president, the Digital Telephony guy, the same fellow who
>will veto any pro-privacy crypto bill. We should try to forget last
>year's anti-terrorism bill, push for roving and multipoint wiretaps, and
>FBI desires to ban nonescrowed domestic crypto. No longer should I be
>concerned about the administration's quest for enormous voracious
>databanks that will be tied together -- airport security, travel records,
>national id cards. And of course ACLU legislative counsel Don Haines is a
>fool when he speaks of "the Clinton-Gore effort to hardwire Big Brother
>into the information age.
>
>Silly me.
>
Declan is absolutely right. Good thing there are no real
privacy officials in the federal government and no privacy
laws for the Internet to get in the way of these efforts.
Has anyone else noticed that the most sweeping proposals
for surveillance are coming from the administration that
has backed the fewest privacy laws of any administration
in 30 years?
Mere coincidence? I don't think so.
Marc.
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NODE 6e1b561fRe: Why the government should protect our privacy
Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com>Wed, 13 Aug 1997 23:16:49 +0800
On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Declan McCullagh forwarded this bit of text
written by Marc Rotenberg of EPIC who wrote:
> Declan is absolutely right. Good thing there are no real
> privacy officials in the federal government and no privacy
> laws for the Internet to get in the way of these efforts.
>
> Has anyone else noticed that the most sweeping proposals
> for surveillance are coming from the administration that
> has backed the fewest privacy laws of any administration
> in 30 years?
>
> Mere coincidence? I don't think so.
>
> Marc.
Like duh, citizen unit privacy protection is anathema to Big Brother
snooping on said citizen units, why should they care about our privacy?
They slowly chiseled away our constitutional rights to the point where we
can barely fight them.
I've recently attended a SpyKing seminar here in NYC (same week as HOPE)
and it was amazing the amount of info you can social engineer out of
people. The biggest leaks: your bank, Cable TV, gas & electric companies.
Big Brother might as well not bother to keep records with the wealth of
info kept by the corporations. But that won't stop them.
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