// COMPLETE THREAD

Re: More on House Intelligence committee amendment on crypto

2 expanded posts ยท every known parent and child

NODE 1f5fc7dcRe: More on House Intelligence committee amendment on crypto
At 03:38 PM 9/11/97 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>So I'm reading through the 43-page amendment to SAFE that the House
>Intelligence committee approved today. It includes: 
>
>* Ban on sale of crypto without a backdoor. Five year & fine (maybe
>$250,000?) if violated. Prosecutions can be held in closed-door
>courtrooms, publishers of info about case to be held in contempt of court.

Does the bill retain the 5 years first offense, 10 years second offense
provisions for using crypto in the comission of a crime?

Let's see: Lucky sells five copies of PGP. That's 5+(5+4*10)=50 years in
prison. Or is it (5*5)+(5+4*10)=70 years? Doesn't make much of a difference
at my age, I suppose.


--Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
  PGP encrypted mail preferred.
  DES is dead! Please join in breaking RC5-56.
  http://rc5.distributed.net/
NODE b5ac57eeRe: More on House Intelligence committee amendment on crypto
The new SAFE bill retains the five-ten provisions. Remember how the crypto
in a crime provision was narrowed in (I recall) the Judiciary committee?
It's not that narrow anymore; it's been broadened and is much more
encompassing. Small surprise.

-Declan


On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Lucky Green wrote:

> At 03:38 PM 9/11/97 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> >So I'm reading through the 43-page amendment to SAFE that the House
> >Intelligence committee approved today. It includes: 
> >
> >* Ban on sale of crypto without a backdoor. Five year & fine (maybe
> >$250,000?) if violated. Prosecutions can be held in closed-door
> >courtrooms, publishers of info about case to be held in contempt of court.
> 
> Does the bill retain the 5 years first offense, 10 years second offense
> provisions for using crypto in the comission of a crime?
> 
> Let's see: Lucky sells five copies of PGP. That's 5+(5+4*10)=50 years in
> prison. Or is it (5*5)+(5+4*10)=70 years? Doesn't make much of a difference
> at my age, I suppose.
> 
> 
> --Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
>   PGP encrypted mail preferred.
>   DES is dead! Please join in breaking RC5-56.
>   http://rc5.distributed.net/
> 
>