Big Brother is watching

> Yes, rest assured that Big Brother is watching. Three CopBots have been
> deployed around the county to take pictures of vehicles exiting
> intersections after the light has turned red. These CopBots are a great
> boon to our prosperity and security as they free up the huminoid Cops from
> traffic duties so that they can better spend their time toilet plunger
> kicking.

Yes, they love these in Germany too. Ways to combat:

1) Wax your license plate, especially the front one.

2) When you find one of these unattended critters along the road, wave
your hand in front of it at amazing speeds until it runs out of film.
(Ensure middle finger is extended.)

3) Wave a plunger in front of it at amazing speeds. Give the cops
tens of alternating shots of your extended finger and plungers.

4) Assault the machine with a plunger. (Only if really mad.)

-- FedPlunger

At 9:03 AM -0700 9/4/97, Anonymous wrote:
>> Yes, rest assured that Big Brother is watching. Three CopBots have been
>> deployed around the county to take pictures of vehicles exiting
>> intersections after the light has turned red. These CopBots are a great
>> boon to our prosperity and security as they free up the huminoid Cops from
>> traffic duties so that they can better spend their time toilet plunger
>> kicking.
>
>Yes, they love these in Germany too. Ways to combat:
>
>1) Wax your license plate, especially the front one.
>

Or smear mud on the plates. This is an old trick.

(We have the cameras in our area, too. In Campbell, CA, for example. My
recollection from news stories is that the camera also snaps a photo of the
driver, allowing reasonably positive ID. If the photo is blurred or not
usable in court, the traffic charge is dropped (probably only if
challenged, though). Some interesting constitutional issues, it seems to
me. Namely, if Alice is driving Bob's car and is ticketed, should Bob face
the points on his license? Or even criminal charges? Seems to violate our
notions of scienter.)

By the way, a useful survival trick is to have a spare set of license
plates available.  It's not a crime to carry an old set around in one's
vehicle, only to actually use them (and be caught). Sometimes these can be
found at junkyards, sometimes old plates from other states don't have to be
turned in. And the unscrupulous can steal plates from other cars (or switch
them, though this has obvious problems if they are traceable to you!!).

Sure, these plates won't be "valid," and may not have current stickers (if
they're old). But if the cops are looking for your car, or even using
automated plate scanners on toll roads, bridges, etc., then having some old
plates from your Oregon car sure beats having the plates their computers
have flagged.

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On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Anonymous wrote:

> 2) When you find one of these unattended critters along the road, wave
> your hand in front of it at amazing speeds until it runs out of film.
> (Ensure middle finger is extended.)

Depends on the kind of camera.  If it's a video camera, you might be able
to blind the bitch by blasting loads of IR at it which would be
invisible to any donut munchers watching you....   Anyone know a source
for big IR lamps?

Any way to defeat film bearing cameras?

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Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com> writes:

> On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Anonymous wrote:
> 
> > 2) When you find one of these unattended critters along the road, wave
> > your hand in front of it at amazing speeds until it runs out of film.
> > (Ensure middle finger is extended.)
> 
> Depends on the kind of camera.  If it's a video camera, you might be able
> to blind the bitch by blasting loads of IR at it which would be
> invisible to any donut munchers watching you....   Anyone know a source
> for big IR lamps?
> 
> Any way to defeat film bearing cameras?

A little laser aimed at the right place at the right time?

(My late grandfather lost an eye in a laser accident)

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On Thu, Sep 04, 1997 at 10:01:20AM -0700, Tim May wrote:
> (We have the cameras in our area, too. In Campbell, CA, for example. My
> recollection from news stories is that the camera also snaps a photo of the
> driver, allowing reasonably positive ID. If the photo is blurred or not
> usable in court, the traffic charge is dropped (probably only if
> challenged, though). Some interesting constitutional issues, it seems to
> me. Namely, if Alice is driving Bob's car and is ticketed, should Bob face
> the points on his license? Or even criminal charges? Seems to violate our
> notions of scienter.)

Photo radars are common in France, too. I was told by a cop friend that
no more than 20% of the photos are useable (that is, show clearly the
license plate for purpose of identification). And the law was modified a
couple of years ago, to answer the question you ask. If somebody is
driving your car, and you don't give his name, then you face the charges
(pay the ticket, and get the points...). The funny thing is, when they
started using photo radars, they were sending the photo with the
summons. Which, of course can be a problem, as if your wife opens it and
find the photo with you and and your mistress. This actually happened,
and the court ruled it was a violation of privacy. Now you have to go to
the police to see the photo. Needless to say, anything you would use to
cover your plates is outlawed...

                           F.

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Fabrice Planchon <fabrice@math.Princeton.EDU> writes:

> 
> On Thu, Sep 04, 1997 at 10:01:20AM -0700, Tim May wrote:
> > (We have the cameras in our area, too. In Campbell, CA, for example. My
> > recollection from news stories is that the camera also snaps a photo of the
> > driver, allowing reasonably positive ID. If the photo is blurred or not
> > usable in court, the traffic charge is dropped (probably only if
> > challenged, though). Some interesting constitutional issues, it seems to
> > me. Namely, if Alice is driving Bob's car and is ticketed, should Bob face
> > the points on his license? Or even criminal charges? Seems to violate our
> > notions of scienter.)
> 
> Photo radars are common in France, too. I was told by a cop friend that
> no more than 20% of the photos are useable (that is, show clearly the
> license plate for purpose of identification). And the law was modified a
> couple of years ago, to answer the question you ask. If somebody is
> driving your car, and you don't give his name, then you face the charges
> (pay the ticket, and get the points...). The funny thing is, when they
> started using photo radars, they were sending the photo with the
> summons. Which, of course can be a problem, as if your wife opens it and
> find the photo with you and and your mistress. This actually happened,
> and the court ruled it was a violation of privacy. Now you have to go to
> the police to see the photo. Needless to say, anything you would use to
> cover your plates is outlawed...


I believe in New York State the car owner is liable for the fine, but no
one gets points off the licence based on the photo.

In some jurisdictions one can get a ticket for having too much mud or dust
on the licence tag, making it hard to read.

P.S. Also in NYS cars have a paper sticker on the inside of the windshield
listing among other things the recent mileage, the year, and the licence #.
Tim's idea of using another car's tags won't work here.

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At 03:01 PM 9/4/97 -0400, Ray Arachelian wrote:
>
>On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Anonymous wrote:
>
>> 2) When you find one of these unattended critters along the road, wave
>> your hand in front of it at amazing speeds until it runs out of film.
>> (Ensure middle finger is extended.)
>
>Depends on the kind of camera.  If it's a video camera, you might be able
>to blind the bitch by blasting loads of IR at it which would be
>invisible to any donut munchers watching you....   Anyone know a source
>for big IR lamps?
>
>Any way to defeat film bearing cameras?

Depends if the camera is watched.  

Vaseline on the lens will blur the image, but you have to get close enough
to get it there.

Hard radiation will blur the film, but tends to have nasty side effects.

Pain guns can cover the lens.

Spray paint cans on long poles (as used by agitprop graffiti artists) are
useful.  (Under the cover of night...)

Laser pointers hidden nearby and aimed at the lens.  (About $20 at your
local discount office store.)

Gas or kerosine poured on the camera will make a nice tiki tourch.

An air rifle or pellet gun may be quiet enough to hit the camera from a
distance, breaking the internals of the camera.  (A crossbow will work as
well, but those may be best saved for those unmarked helicopters planting
pot seeds on your property so the government can seize it later.)

A magnet placed on the side of video cameras may screw up the picture.
(This will only work for the metal cased cameras.  You also have to use a
strong magnet and get it in the right spot.)

I am sure others will have useful suggestions.

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At 12:01 PM -0700 9/4/97, Ray Arachelian wrote:
>On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Anonymous wrote:
>
>> 2) When you find one of these unattended critters along the road, wave
>> your hand in front of it at amazing speeds until it runs out of film.
>> (Ensure middle finger is extended.)
>
>Depends on the kind of camera.  If it's a video camera, you might be able
>to blind the bitch by blasting loads of IR at it which would be
>invisible to any donut munchers watching you....   Anyone know a source
>for big IR lamps?
>
>Any way to defeat film bearing cameras?

Try near UV.  Goes thru glass and exposes film, but is stopped by the human
eye.


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