NODE 2fb6b0bdRe: Its working read this, give it a chance
Pascal Mayani <mayani@ingenia.fr>Fri, 26 Sep 1997 18:30:19 +0800
Ouais c'est vieux comme le monde le principe: ca s'appelle une pyramide et
il n'y a que le gars en haut qui se fait un sacre pactole. En plus c'est
parfaitement illegal.
And now, ladies & gentlemen, let's talk in english :
Hello suckers of *intofild@aol.com*,
This nice principle of sending money to the last name on a list through
the INTERNET is the ultimate variation of the pyramidal game...
First before carrying on with the demonstration, people should know that
this kind of "gime your money you sucker, I'll know how to use it" is
illegal in most industrial countries...
You can't win for a very good reason. This game can be seen as a pyramid :
The chief
/ | \
a few accomplices
////||||\\\\
suckers sending their money
As you can see, the only people to earn money in the process are the one on
the top of this pyramid, the others just send their money to the top of it
and can hardly win a kopek.
The idea is very simple, usually on the list, you'll find unknown people
whom you would suppose to be some ordinary participants of the game, in
fact in most cases they're the accomplices or the chief himself.
The original situation:
#1 accomplice 1
#2 accomplice 2
#3 accomplice 3
#4 chief
You send five bucks to the chief...
#1 you
#2 accomplice 1
#3 accomplice 2
#4 accomplice 3
You send your money to accomplice 3
Now you ask twenty of your friends to do so:
#1 one of your friend
#2 you
#3 accomplice 1
#4 accomplice 2
Now this people will ask friends of them to send money in their turn:
#1 a friend'a friend
#1 one of your friend
#2 you
#3 accomplice 1
They will send money to accomplice 1...
This group of people, the accomplices and the chief will get:
20*20*20*20*5= $800 000
(And of course, it's could be more profitable, you can't know how many
people answered at the first stage).
If you hope to reach the fifth stage... Read the demonstration once again !
So don't be stupid, don't even send a peanut to these suckers...
NODE 4e9f03f3Re: Its working read this, give it a chance
Bill Stewart <stewarts@ix.netcom.com>Sat, 27 Sep 1997 13:22:36 +0800
At 11:51 AM 09/26/1997 +0200, you wrote:
>Ouais c'est vieux comme le monde le principe: ca s'appelle une pyramide et
>il n'y a que le gars en haut qui se fait un sacre pactole. En plus c'est
>parfaitement illegal.
Bon jour!
You posted this to the cypherpunks mailing list. We've seen SPAM before,
and this one is not new, except that perhaps you received it en Francais.
However, there are some cypherpunks-relevant issues:
1) Anonymity is easy. Not only can you be the chief of this pyramid,
you can be some of the accomplices, and even some of the suckers
generating cash flow to the accomplices so they can demonstrate
how great a system this is. And nobody knows you're the dog.
2) Economics often determines activities, and the economics of the
margin are as important as the economics of the whole system.
Yes, the system is bad for everybody except the sellers of telephone wire,
but if anyone thinks they can locate suckers fast enough to take in more money
than they spend locating the suckers, and they have low enough ethics,
some of them will try. Since there are many people out there with low ethics
and a high estimate of the number of suckers, and since the costs
of communicating to a large number of people on the Internet is very low,
many of them will try, and some will succeed, and all of them will send you
junk mail.
>Hello suckers of *intofild@aol.com*,
>This nice principle of sending money to the last name on a list through
>the INTERNET is the ultimate variation of the pyramidal game...
...
>illegal in most industrial countries...
Illegal doesn't matter, only practical matters.
Lotteries also lose money, except for the people selling tickets,
but the government permits them when the government gets the money.
Pyramid scams are also a form of lottery, where it's easier to affect your
odds of being the winner or loser, depending on the number of suckers you know
and the extent to which you're a sucker yourself.
> The chief
> / | \
> a few accomplices
> ////||||\\\\
> suckers sending their money
Thanks!
Bill
Bill Stewart, stewarts@ix.netcom.com
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