NODE 6fe1e9ecMondex Broken
John Young <jya@pipeline.com>Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:14:04 +0800
We've received from anonymous a report on breaking
Mondex's pilot system by TNO along with a confidential
1996 memo describing the break:
TNO's Ernst Bovenlander gave some details of these
attacks (though he didn't mention Mondex as the target).
He showed an electron micrograph of a fuzed link in a
smartcard; while intact, this link activated a test mode in
which the card contents were simply dumped to the
serial port. The TNO attack was to bridge the link with
two microprobes. At the last RSA conference, Tom
Rowley of National Semiconductor reported a similar
attack on an unnamed chip using an ion beam to
rewrite the link .
Included is a letter from the Bank of New Zealand to
Electronic Frontier Canada attempting to suppress
publication of the memo.
http://jya.com/mondex-hack.htm
NODE ed9b0fddRe: Mondex Broken
Tim May <tcmay@got.net>Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:45:00 +0800
At 6:55 PM -0700 9/9/97, John Young wrote:
>We've received from anonymous a report on breaking
>Mondex's pilot system by TNO along with a confidential
>1996 memo describing the break:
....
>Included is a letter from the Bank of New Zealand to
>Electronic Frontier Canada attempting to suppress
>publication of the memo.
>
> http://jya.com/mondex-hack.htm
You mean the way <elided> had lawyers send threatening letters to <elided>
warning him not to further publicize the claimed security flaws in
<elided>, the security product sold by <elided>?
I myself received a phone call from <elided>, warning me to not to even
make reference to the rumors that <elided> had flaws in it.
Some of you know what I mean.
There's even a chance this vague note here will cause <elided> to again
contact me, warning me that even such <elisions> are not good enough for
them.
And I'm not at all surprised that those with financial interests in
products are attempting to supress technical or competitive analysis
reports. It's become the way of the world to hire lawyers and barristers to
intimidate whomever they can.
Fortunately, this is what remailers are so useful for. (Though the lawyers
and cops are going after the remailers, as several recent cases have shown.)
And the execrable copyright new world order would make such reverse
engineering illegal in many cases. More reason to nuke it with remailers.
--Tim May
There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws.
Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!"
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NODE 1ad75f9eC2Net bastards (Was: Mondex Broken
nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:40:38 +0800
Tim May <tcmay@got.net> writes:
> You mean the way <elided> had lawyers send threatening letters to <elided>
> warning him not to further publicize the claimed security flaws in
> <elided>, the security product sold by <elided>?
>
> I myself received a phone call from <elided>, warning me to not to even
> make reference to the rumors that <elided> had flaws in it.
>
> Some of you know what I mean.
For those who still don't know what Tim May means, the barratrous
threats came from the crypto snake oil peddler C2Net and its Arab
owner Sameer Parekh.
Sameer's "product", StrongHold, is a hacked version of the free Web
server Apache, and has more backdoors and security holes than
Swiss cheese.
NODE 89c11feaRe: C2Net bastards (Was: Mondex Broken
Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com>Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:24:29 +0800
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Anonymous wrote:
> For those who still don't know what Tim May means, the barratrous
> threats came from the crypto snake oil peddler C2Net and its Arab
> owner Sameer Parekh.
>
> Sameer's "product", StrongHold, is a hacked version of the free Web
> server Apache, and has more backdoors and security holes than
> Swiss cheese.
Well Vulis^h^h^h^h^hAnonymous, care to tell us what those holes are so we
can use them?
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NODE cfc8c313Re: Mondex Broken
Adam Shostack <adam@homeport.org>Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:47:51 +0800
John Young wrote:
| We've received from anonymous a report on breaking
| Mondex's pilot system by TNO along with a confidential
| 1996 memo describing the break:
|
| TNO's Ernst Bovenlander gave some details of these
| attacks (though he didn't mention Mondex as the target).
This seems pretty cool (the point in the memo about 'security
being suitable for purpose' with purpose left undefined but implied by
Mondex to be 'low value' is very interesting). However, its not clear
to me who TNO is?
Adam
--
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once."
-Hume
NODE 687f3576Re: Mondex Broken
Brad Dolan <bdolan@USIT.NET>Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:20:28 +0800
The TNO is a Dutch research organization. Based on this blind man's
view of the elephant, it's sort of like a national lab, but with a more
applied focus.
bd
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Adam Shostack wrote:
> John Young wrote:
> | We've received from anonymous a report on breaking
> | Mondex's pilot system by TNO along with a confidential
> | 1996 memo describing the break:
> |
> | TNO's Ernst Bovenlander gave some details of these
> | attacks (though he didn't mention Mondex as the target).
>
> This seems pretty cool (the point in the memo about 'security
> being suitable for purpose' with purpose left undefined but implied by
> Mondex to be 'low value' is very interesting). However, its not clear
> to me who TNO is?
>
> Adam
>
> --
> "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once."
> -Hume
>
>
>